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re: This is an actual slide from a Science Teacher's convention

Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:41 pm to
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JBE doesn't support that.

I know.

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JBE doesn't support that.

I know

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Honest people know it's not about revenue given that private schools spend less on education than public schools do.
Are they dealing with the same level of poverty?



Jesus man, let the adults talk.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:43 pm to
LINK /

how do the Rispone , I am with Trump, deal with the deficit spending under Trump, something Hannity use to rip Obama for every night . Note I voted for Trump, largely because we have gotten Judicial Consevatives and Social Conservatives (not expand abortion policy) on the courts, so while I am an independent , on those 2 issues, there are others, I am conservative and hence have always vote for REP at presidential level
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 3:44 pm to
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And also, because he gave no evidence that he was any different from Edwards


Voting against a guy because there is a chance he doesn't differ from the guy you are voting for. Some people simply can't think logically.

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You are a good example of why the GOP can't win over libertarians.



He's 100% right. I espouse many libertarian values. But, I think logically and don't get lost in the forest for the trees. A lot of libertarians are like you...they will cut of their nose to spite their face and never realize it's happening. That's you.

I realize that this will get you angry and you will just react loudly. But, assuming you believe what you say you believe (this isn't a certainty. You wouldn't be the first to pretend to be on the right while consistently pushing leftist views), you would be wise to do some introspection. Your actions are humorously against your desired outcome.

In short...less emotion, more rational thought.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:08 pm to
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I mean, you can't reasonably expect kids to have pencil and paper, unless you provide it for them.


If you reward a behavior you'll get more of it.

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Every solution that needs higher revenue is opposed by the right.


That's because we've given the system higher revenues without anything in return; we've done it over and over for over half a century. Yeah, fiscally responsible people are going to balk at giving them even more without some reasonable expectation of results.

Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:10 pm to
probably kubbies power point
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:11 pm to
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Bigotry can have a rational basis.


I completely disagree. What they are implying is simply bullshite.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:17 pm to
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So. . .yeah


I wouldn't say "broken system" but I would say it's attributable near exclusively to socioeconomic position
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:19 pm to
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That's because we've given the system higher revenues without anything in return; we've done it over and over for over half a century. Yeah, fiscally responsible people are going to balk at giving them even more without some reasonable expectation of results.


What was the average level of math/science completed 30-40 years ago vs the average today?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:21 pm to
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I wouldn't say "broken system"


Then you're a bigot.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:26 pm to
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That’s allegedly a stem summit
They aren't teaching STEM. It is a stem advocacy group. It is safe to say that the lady who put this slide together doesn't have a stem degree. Not really sure what message she was trying to convey.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:26 pm to
Read the bell curve and get back to me. It’s more than geography and environment
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:28 pm to
Imagine being an adult and still considering yourself a libertarian. Can I get a retard check in chat
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21682 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:30 pm to
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They aren't teaching STEM. It is a stem advocacy group. It is safe to say that the lady who put this slide together doesn't have a stem degree.


Very safe. And it looks more like a SJW advocacy group than a STEM advocacy group.

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Not really sure what message she was trying to convey.


Really? It's not very complex; it's the same message the left has been trying to convey for decades.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:31 pm to
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I completely disagree.


Well if every time I walk through a certain area of town I get mugged,
I might develop a rational bigotry to people in that area of town.

Stereotypes aren't always fair, but they don't get created for no reason.
Posted by Sentrius
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:34 pm to
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And also, because he gave no evidence that he was any different from Edwards, outside of generalities and vague talking points.



This is how I know you really did not follow the campaign at all.

Rispone proposed ending JBE's legacy lawsuits, repealing JBE's taxes, enacting a constitutional convention and enacting tort reform.

Those things are the biggest stories of JBE's governorship and those are the biggest things that Rispone promised to take action against and enact.

That was more than enough for me.

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Despite me constantly giving you other reasons?



Your other reasons are just different variations of the same reason.

Rispone is an a-hole. That's it with you. End of story.

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You are a good example of why the GOP can't win over libertarians.



One good reason why I don't identify as a LOLbertarian apart from coming to the conclusion that their ideology has no real world practicality and goes against every human instinct?

I got tired of losing.

And that's you ever will be. A loser.
This post was edited on 11/17/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted by CC
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Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:53 pm to
Breaking data down by demographic subgroups is, by definition, bigotry.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23141 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 4:56 pm to
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They aren't teaching STEM. It is a stem advocacy group. It is safe to say that the lady who put this slide together doesn't have a stem degree. Not really sure what message she was trying to convey.


That facts are racist
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21682 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:00 pm to
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Breaking data down by demographic subgroups is, by definition, bigotry.


No.

Webster's defines a bigot as:
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Data aren't opinions and they don't hate. Facts are just facts, not value judgements. The FBI breaks down crime by racial/ethnic metrics; is that an exercise in bigotry?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:12 pm to
LOL

That's not science at all

Posted by lsuprof
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
501 posts
Posted on 11/17/19 at 5:18 pm to
This is about as anti-science a statement as I can imagine, and the person making this statement is not a real scientist. He or she may pretend to be a scientist and to know something about science, and he or she may be paid money to pretend to be a scientist, but to be a real scientist one must engage in the practice of science. Being anti-scientific actually disqualifies someone from being a scientist, though regrettably it does not disqualify someone from pretending to be a scientist or from calling oneself a "science" teacher.

One of the things that one learns as a real scientist is that there are all kinds of differences among groups of people that are due to a wide range of causes. Sure, bigotry, prejudice, racism, and sexism can be reasons, but there are many, many other factors that explain inter-group differences. The lion's share of causal factors explaining inter-group differences have nothing to do with bigotry, prejudice, racism, and sexism.
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