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re: This is a spiritual battle, not a political one(Christian thread)

Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:37 am to
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:37 am to
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Thats insane and the same type of mindset of the person that shot Kirk.


Oof.
Posted by Red_and_black
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:38 am to
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Luke 6:27-28


If only the left remotely had any such rule in their play book. They dont and 100M are dead since 1848, opps. make that 1783+ France
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50883 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:40 am to
Ive seen people say this is Christian martyrdom but I dont think so. This was simply taking out a guy that was effective at destroying the left's recruiting ground.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:48 am to
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Ive seen people say this is Christian martyrdom but I dont think so. This was simply taking out a guy that was effective at destroying the left's recruiting ground.


He absolutely was hated because of his faith. His ideals came directly from the Word. They didnt hate CK because of his tax policy ideas
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:48 am to
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Many Christians are gonna say "turn the other cheek" There is a distinction which MUST be clarified. Yes we pray for those who hate US. We love OUR enemies. These people hate God. They reject God. We ARE to hate those who hate God. They are our enemies. They have to be defeated and its very important that as a Christian, you pray for their defeat and judgement.
I agree that we can pray that God judges His enemies. There are several imprecatory Psalms that provide this example. However, we need to put our trust in the Lord to change hearts and minds, and we are to do our part by preaching the gospel to the world, and to pray that the Lord would use it to save people and suppress the sins of the nations by His common grace through the influence of the gospel spreading.

God is a God of love, but also of justice. He will judge the wicked perfectly and with more ferocity and holy indignation than we could ever do ourselves, but we also need to remember that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us, the godly for the ungodly. He showed mercy to us in our rebellion against Him, and we should ask that He do the same for others, according to His good pleasure, for our good and for His glory.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50883 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:51 am to
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They didnt hate CK because of his tax policy ideas

It is retarded to diminish his political influence just because he didnt have a platform to discuss tax policy. He stopped the brainwashing by the universities at the universities.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10457 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 10:56 am to
I agree that we can pray that God judges His enemies. There are several imprecatory Psalms that provide this example. However, we need to put our trust in the Lord to change hearts and minds, and we are to do our part by preaching the gospel to the world, and to pray that the Lord would use it to save people and suppress the sins of the nations by His common grace through the influence of the gospel spreading

We can do both
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:00 am to
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turn the other cheek"


I only have 2 cheeks. I’ve run out.

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y have to be defeated and its very important that as a Christian, you pray for their defeat and judgement.


And what is your plan of attack to “defeat” them. Who is them? What does it look like to defeat them? Who will be the one(s) to do the defeating? God? Do you think fire and brimstone will fall upon them? A plague? Rivers of blood?

THIS is the problem with “Christian’s”. Just pray the boogie man away. Leave it in Gods hands. Whatever the frick that means. Turn the other check. Praying didn't help the Jews, the chosen. WTF would praying help A gentile. You believe in fairytales.

There is only 1 way. And it’s been the same way since the beginning of time. The circle of life.

This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 11:03 am
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:07 am to
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governments


Who makes up the government? People. Christian. Jews. Unorthodox. Atheist. We can’t get along outside of the government.were supposed to trust a group of tribes pulling in opposite directions to do what exactly?
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:10 am to
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rapture is the brighter future.


Another fear tactic from apostolics. “No one knows” but yet every year, every message the same. “Soon and very soon we are going to see our king”

Keep them in fear, gonna burn in hell. Easier to control that way.
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:14 am to
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am I not pleased when they turn



O the prodigal child. The lost sheep. Funny that story never talks about the pain and suffering he caused while blowing his dad’s $$$$. Blow and hoes.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46045 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:15 am to
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Keep them in fear, gonna burn in hell. Easier to control that way.
I think you’ve got a pretty bad understanding of Christianity.
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:17 am to
No friend. I’m well aware of what the rapture is or at least is preached to be. Fear. Control.
Posted by adamau
Member since Oct 2020
4243 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:18 am to
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But that’s very different from the role of government. The state has a job that individuals don’t: keeping order, restraining evil, and punishing wrongdoing. Paul makes this clear in Romans 13, government authority is set in place by God, and rulers “do not bear the sword in vain” (Rom. 13:4). In other words, the state is given responsibility to enforce laws and administer justice, something Christians as individuals are told not to take into their own hands (Rom. 12:19).



Absolutely, and one of the biggest problems that we currently are facing across the world is that those in "power" are absolutely dominated by the enemy.

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For we are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against mighty powers in this dark world, and against evil spirits in the heavenly places.


The evil of the spiritual realm has taken hold of these "leaders" they are at the enemy's behest. So, they don't enforce laws, especially not God's Laws, administer justice or even protect "their" citizens. I do think we are nearing a point where there needs to be a major upheaval of those currently in "leadership" across the world to allow for many more legitimate public servants to be in those roles. However, that also requires those that are legitimately tied to God's word to be willing to lead and serve. Perhaps that is a much larger part of our charge coming from all of this.
Posted by Kolbysfan
Member since Jun 2007
2172 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 11:23 am to
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biggest problems that we currently are facing across the world is that those in "power" are absolutely dominated by the enemy.


This is not new. Nor is it specific to Christian’s.
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tied to God's word to be willing to lead and serve. Perhaps


When you say “God” is that the Christian god? Allah? Jewish God. Hindu? Ancient Egypt? Which god? They all have very similar books written about them. I stay confused.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9062 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 1:33 pm to
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I think removing them from our lives, shunning them, etc is an appropriate response.


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Yes. I have no tolerance for this


Charlie did. He sacrificed himself in order to engage rather than simply toss
aside those who disagreed with them. He showed bravery and I say that as someone who disagreed with many of political views. Shunning them, publicly shaming them is an understandable response....but then how do you reach the many of those that are young and are misguided into thinking violence is an acceptable answer?
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10457 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Charlie did. He sacrificed himself in order to engage rather than simply toss aside those who disagreed with them. He showed bravery and I say that as someone who disagreed with many of political views. Shunning them, publicly shaming them is an understandable response....but then how do you reach the many of those that are young and are misguided into thinking violence is an acceptable answer?


Let me repeat this again: Those that cheer on the assassination of a peaceful, respectful, family man like Charlie Kirk have no place in our society. They should be shunned and cast off to the fringes and should hold no positions of authority at all. They are dangerous, nasty people
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10457 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:10 pm to
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quote:biggest problems that we currently are facing across the world is that those in "power" are absolutely dominated by the enemy. This is not new. Nor is it specific to Christian’s.quote:tied to God's word to be willing to lead and serve. Perhaps When you say “God” is that the Christian god? Allah? Jewish God. Hindu? Ancient Egypt? Which god? They all have very similar books written about them. I stay confused.


You are a liar and we see right through you. He mentioned Paul, as well as referencing the Bible. Hes clearly referencing God of the Bible, not any of those false religions. You know this but decided to lie to make a cute little gotcha. We know you are atheist, just sack up and say it
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23218 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:15 pm to
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Ive seen people say this is Christian martyrdom but I dont think so. This was simply taking out a guy that was effective at destroying the left's recruiting ground.

Kirk shared the gospel with thousands.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3508 posts
Posted on 9/12/25 at 2:17 pm to
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Yes. I have no tolerance for this. While im not telling people to go shoot them, I think removing them from our lives, shunning them, etc is an appropriate response.



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