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This how we should define WOKE. “Woke is a worldview using the lens of Marxism"

Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
64134 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:17 pm


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@XVanFleet
This how we should define WOKE.

We should say “Woke is a worldview using the lens of Marxism”. Then give examples:

* Use identity to divide ppl into oppressors & oppressed & set them up against each other
* Individualism replaced by tribalism/collectivism, eventually by totalitarianism
* Abolition of tradition, e.g. attacking marriage, family, sanctity of life, religion…core foundations of our society.
* Use media & educational institutions to indoctrinate the masses
* Use coercion, eventually force, to control speech, e.g. hate speech. Manipulate words to control thought, e.g. replacing equality w/ equity; no one can define “women”…
* Capitalism to be replaced by Socialism in the name of fairness & social justice.
* The Truth replaced by your truth vs my truth. “Lived experience” trumps rationality.
* Revision of history for political goal, e.g. The 1619 Project.

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Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2797 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:34 pm to
Bolshevism. a lot of Neocon and Neoliberal ideology is derived from the writings and works of Lev Davidovich Bronstein, famous for his sobriquet "Trotsky".
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37581 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:43 pm to
Even though that is some dumb shite, it’s still better than the “Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282000 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

“Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.


I wonder who is to blame for the Woke campaign?

If only we could blame those who started this entire phony fiasco.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39714 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:55 pm to
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Even though that is some dumb shite


It is spot on.

You calling it dumb exposes you for what you actually are.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3450 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:57 pm to
I would only amend to say that woke is a tool by used marxists to advance their agenda. The actual people are useful idiots.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282000 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Bolshevism. a lot of Neocon and Neoliberal ideology is derived from the writings and works of Lev Davidovich Bronstein, famous for his sobriquet "Trotsky".


Right. The new left origins are rooted in the communist parties in Great Britain and the USA in the late 50's and early 60s.

A more "Democratic" form of communism.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60973 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.



What should I say instead, if almost everything I don’t like has its genesis in woke ideology?
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 2:21 pm
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
8030 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:22 pm to
It wasn't even the non-woke who came up with the term in the first place. It was the "woke" themselves who told us they were woke. They believed they were finally seeing the world correctly for the first time. In fact, they were brainwashed to believe that to be true. Let's not forget that.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
13537 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:24 pm to
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You calling it dumb exposes you for what you actually are


Not a boomer?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
64134 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Even though that is some dumb shite, it’s still better than the “Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.
Would you point out the "dumb shite" parts of it?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118102 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:58 pm to
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They believed they were finally seeing the world correctly for the first time. In fact, they were brainwashed to believe that to be true. Let's not forget that.





Oblivious to the irony of it all……

That and the willful ignorance they boastfully cling to is enough for most people to realize this party can begin to end when the line goes hot. Short of that, figure out which of the three rings is your favorite and enjoy the circus.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25401 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Even though that is some dumb shite, it’s still better than the “Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.



Can you give an example of this board misapplying the woke label?
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2631 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:06 pm to
Lev Davidovich Bronstein aka Trotsky

Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5930 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:06 pm to
So teaching that slavery existed in the US was wrong
Is not woke
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79453 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Even though that is some dumb shite, it’s still better than the “Everything I don’t like is woke.” mentality people on this site employ.


I guess you just don’t like looking in the mirror.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79453 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

So teaching that slavery existed in the US was wrong Is not woke


Who wasn’t taught this?

Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
64134 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

So teaching that slavery existed in the US was wrong
Is not woke
I'm not sure I understood your point
Posted by Corso
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2020
11770 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

So teaching that slavery existed in the US was wrong
Is not woke


I think the point is that teaching white people they're inherently racist because slavery existed 160 years ago is retarded
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