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This has me thinking about illegals in Florida

Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:10 am
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:10 am
DeSantis put $8 million in the budget for getting illegals out of Florida. He’s really grandstanding it, which is fine. But there are a bunch of Cuban migrants in Florida as well that are part of the state turning red as they flee communism. Does it send the wrong message to them that he doesn’t want illegals there? Is there a difference between Cuban/Venezuelan defectors?
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3263 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:11 am to
No, Cubans love BDR
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:21 am to
Seems like Cuba will not accept them back unless there is an unusual circumstance.

Us has been working to deport Cuban Nationals. Just seems like Cuba can accept or reject them.

This is a clip from a recent Miami herald article in 2022.
“In these types of deportations, the United States contracts charter flights to send people to the island. The Cuban government does not accept such flights, according to the Miami Herald newspaper.”
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:23 am to
Unless something has changed, there is no such thing as an illegal Cuban. You're also considering that people who came legally identifying with the people who cut in line, which typically isn't the case. I was at a dinner with a Chinese friend and some lib at the table thought she'd be a sympathetic ear for his support of illegals. He thought wrong. She went through a lot of effort to do things the right way, and resented the line-cutters as well as the lib who lumped her in with them.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:27 am to
They are deported according to a few articles. Mostly for Cuban Nationals who are found guilty of crimes.

Cuba, refuses to take them.
I guess they don’t want people who commit crimes in their country.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Is there a difference between Cuban/Venezuelan defectors?

you do realize that there are 3 to 4 generations of Cuban migrants in Florida?

It is a politically pure genesis of what can only be termed a mature demographic.

Venezuela has been running from THEIR equivalent of the USA Democrats for what, 10 years?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5604 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:13 am to
Big question to try and understand this:

1. Are the Cubans that are here illegal? Have they tried the proper channels?

2. The venezualans clearly violated the law by not going to the nearest country seeking asylum.

Big difference.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140565 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Is there a difference between Cuban/Venezuelan defectors?


Yes. One is Cuban and one is not.

Anything else we can help you with?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:38 am to
quote:

DeSantis put $8 million in the budget for getting illegals out of Florida. He’s really grandstanding it, which is fine. But there are a bunch of Cuban migrants in Florida as well that are part of the state turning red as they flee communism. Does it send the wrong message to them that he doesn’t want illegals there? Is there a difference between Cuban/Venezuelan defectors?



Venezuelan voters were stupid enough to vote in a Socialist president.

Cubans didn't vote in commie Castro he just took over.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12900 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:49 am to
Yes, wealthy educated successful patriotic Cubans and LEGAL Venezuelans love it when poor uneducated gang affiliated illegals flood into their communities. It’s always a great outcome….you liberals are beyond naive.
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:51 am to
Here’s a fun fact from a Florida law enforcement officer. We have so many illegal aliens in the state right now that they’re starting to take over communities that have been traditionally black. The blacks are being displaced and cannot find housing because of the economic power of so many Hispanics who have migrated.

The benefit is that they generally clean up the area and we see decreases in crime and blight. It’s hard to discuss this without sounding racist but the reality is that Hispanic migrants are quickly putting blacks into even worse economic situations. The Hispanics have a far better work ethic and they stick together as family units. Far less drug abuse and crime.

Blacks really should be seriously thinking about their political views because they’re being replaced. .
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10335 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:06 am to
Cubans don’t want them either
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2300 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Is there a difference between Cuban/Venezuelan defectors?


Yes, 7 countries.

Venezuelans have to pass through SEVEN countries before they get to the US claiming asylum. Cubans get in a boat or raft and hope to make it across the 90 miles to Florida.
Passing through 7 countries to get to the one that has the best benefits is asylum shopping.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13424 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:44 am to
Cubans are treated differently.......

The Cuban Adjustment Act, effective since November 2, 1966, allows Cuban natives or citizens who have been physically present in the United States for at least a year to apply to become lawful permanent residents.

Hispanics of the southwest are far different than those of Florida. And within Florida you have old Cubans, and the Marieletos (the people who came over on the boatlift, depicted by Scarface). Also rarely mentioned is the huge population of Puerto Ricans who have migrated over the last 20 years.

The US govt had a tax law that basically waived federal tax on manufactured goods in PR, it ended about 15 years ago and since then over a million people have migrated, mostly to central florida to the western coast.

And then the mix of hispanics from south America over the years, lots of wealthy drug dealers, many many dictators and their families and such.

I laugh...they cry when you hear kackles talk about investing in central america to stop the illegals from coming. Cut off the diplomatic visas so momma and the kids cant stay in their 10 million dollar condos in south florida and do their shopping, and watch the dictators put a stop to the immigration, but instead we have the tail waggin the dog.....and we get to launder billions through some govts that would make Ukraine look like pristine by comparison.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13424 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:45 am to
oops dp.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 10:47 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17967 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:16 am to
quote:

Unless something has changed, there is no such thing as an illegal Cuban.

That change came in the last couple weeks of the Obama administration. Wet foot/dry foot is no longer our policy, so there are illegal Cubans now.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3267 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:40 am to
quote:

DeSantis put $8 million in the budget for getting illegals out of Florida. He’s really grandstanding it, which is fine.


I wouldn’t call it grandstanding. You have to make those who support certain policies, in this case open borders, see and feel the consequences of their policies. That is what shipping illegals to those places does.

It is both good policy and politics by Desantis and Abbot to do this.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:56 am to
Do you know this difference between Cubans coming to America and everyone else? Hint: it's a Fed law.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53846 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:59 am to
Not at all. Florida ray is a sanctuary for Cubans fleeing communism!

Cubans are better Americans than most Americans!
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 12:00 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12515 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 4:24 pm to
So your saying illegal immigrants have turned Florida red ? Democrats going so far left have turned a lot of the Spanish population to become republicans. Why would shipping illegal immigrants out of the states offend legal immigrants? Desantis should find a way to use give send go to raise money to pay for the illegal immigrant removal. That way when democrats get mad he tell them to come sign paperwork that they will be responsible for the illegal immigrants. Democrats are all talk . They could care less about the illegal immigrants.
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