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re: This debate tonight proved my point.

Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55604 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:57 am to
You are not getting anywhere with anybody as you can see.


I like JD, but JD isn't going into the Bronx and Chitago or Detroit.

That's Trump.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 8:57 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97682 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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yet Trump is struggling


Hes struggling about as much as Russia is with your lover Z
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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Trump has demonstrated he's willing to stand up to the uniparrty and the corruption in DC.


It's simple as this:

Uniparty Democrats and Republicans agree on borders, trade and war. The uniparty in DC are fully aligned on these three issues.

Where Democrats and Republicans in DC differ are on taxes and judges.

Uniparty politicians DON'T care about social issues from an ideological perspective they only care about them to get votes to stay in power to promote the policies of the DC uniparty on borders, trade and war.



They hate Trump because Trump has the opposite view of the DC uniparty on borders, trade and war. Borders, trade and war is where DC gets the majority of their grift on.

This is why they hate Trump. Trump is interfering in the DC uniparty grift.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:00 am to
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Double dog dare? Wow its serious now
We can put any amount of money you like. Literally any dollar amount you care to lose. I wasn't going to take advantage of you, but if you like... ok, I'll take your money.

quote:

No one said you thought she was a good candidate
Slice it any way you like. The same offer is open for any post where I said I'd vote for Nikki Haley over Trump.

Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32358 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:01 am to
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Vivek, JD, and Ron Desantis are all better candidates and will lead the country forward.

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Without Trump, Vivek, JD, and RDS would still be unknowns. They would be considered to be too radical and would be back benches at best. The establishment would either tame them or make them irrelevant.


both are true sentiments.

you could say that the opposite is true in the more conservative/mises wing of the Libertarian party. Ron Paul's ideas were dead-on, he was just too gentle and kind to actually make a dent. it took some dudes that were willing to be assholes to actually make any sizeable dent.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:01 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:03 am to
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There was nobody standing up at that time to challenge the uniparty.
Ron Paul ran both in 2008 and 2012.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
97682 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:03 am to
No one said any of that

You would run over your mother to vote for her if she was the nom

Those are facts
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:03 am to
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You "dumbasses", who listen to MSM to make up your mind, are SUCKERS.


I don’t give a damn about the MSM. I care about the people who DO, because THEIR VOTES COUNT. Those people exist. Those people are pissed. Those people are pissed at a guy who shoots himself in the foot and has polarized the Republican Party. Donald Trump has pushed away more people from the Republican Party than any candidate I can remember. It does not matter what you think about them, their votes count. The Republicans are NOT HELPED by pissing them off.

I don’t give a shite, I’m voting for Trump. But he is a bad candidate. The current administration is one of if not the worst in history. This would be a landslide with Scott, Haley, Tulsi, or Vivek. All of these people would sweep or nearly sweep all the swing states.

You think it’s a good thing to have a presidential candidate who pisses off the other side as much as possible? Wrong. Backlash is inevitable in that case. You guys think it’s a good idea to “stick it to the liberals”… backlash isn’t good for either side.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:05 am to
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And that claim is for every would be candidate.
Evidence indicates otherwise. But I don't expect a cult member to see it.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:05 am to
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riiiiiiiiiiight like W, mittens and mccain did?


None of them were running against Kamala Harris after her being part of the worst administration in history. This election would not be close if not for DJT.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12457 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:05 am to
Trump cannot be "co trolled". He cannot be bought. He cannot be blackmailed. THAT is why he needs to be the candidate....and that is why they hate him so much. He is from the outside and has rebuffed all efforts to change his stances. I like the others mentioned.....and I like Vance.....but...he isn't an independent billionaire. He seems to be a more traditional politician. (Albeit a brilliant one.)
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:06 am to
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This election by far should be the easiest of the three to win.
It's the easiest election to win since 1980. Probably easier. Yet it's going to be close. THat's scary.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:08 am to
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No one said any of that
Liar.

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Skut, flats, taxing authority etc would be first in line to vote for Nikki
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:10 am to
Anyone else but Trump has to acquiesce to the wishes of the GOP if they want their campaign funded. Period.

To get the money to even run, you have to become a RINO before Trump.

Trump has created air between MAGA and the GOP and there's funding that comes from that. No MAGA = uniparty dependence.

That doesn't mean that MAGA is always right, it just means independence from the likes of McConnell, etc.

That's one, of several, reasons for TDS from the R side... they took their money. The evangelicals, the pro-life, the NRA... that's no longer guaranteed automatic money for a RINO's next campaign.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63248 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:10 am to
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I don’t give a shite, I’m voting for Trump. But he is a bad candidate.
The clapping seals don't think this is possible. Though it's been the value proposition of the GOP establishment for decades.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5096 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:15 am to
Trump's issue is he faces folks too stupid to question the media.

The same people who bought Russian Collusion can't fathom that Democrats would also use fake mail-in ballots or stage an insurrection.

Then we still have a large portion of piglets that want to hang around and suck on the Democratic teet.

If this economy was not tanking and WW3 brewing, mean Tweets might get traction. Not in 2024. I don't think these polls are close as portrayed. Just like they weren't in 2016.

You have a guy with a proven working economy with results and you have the other guys who have worked and destroyed the current economy.
People don't care about someone being mean.
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3317 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:20 am to
Trump isn’t a polished politician and we all know that. He’s popular cause of his actions and he has proved he loves his country and the people in it. He sees what we all do in the fact that we are being used and abused by the rest of the world. Trump was and is still needed. He brought fight back to the American people.
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