re: This Arizona Police Officer thing is blowing up

This is awful, but statistically you're almost twice as likely to be diagnosed with breast cancer as a man than be dead by cop.

Just to put this in perspective.

The poor schmoe was just trying to keep his pants from coming off after having to crawl on the floor for the psycho police officer. The psycho had every intention of shooting the victim. He just wanted something for the body cam.

Lesson learned: If faced with a similar situation, I'm going spread eagle and "passing out."

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I can’t believed the cop walked.

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The cops always walk.

Just watched the video. Unbelievable.

That poor fool was so scared he probably shite himself. Clearly not violent, belligerent, or anything.

If you can get shot in that situation, none of us are safe. You issue enough commands, eventually something will go wrong. Esp if the guy had a few drinks. Which we know he did.

Damn shame.

Looks like his shorts where coming down as he was crawling and it was an involuntary reaction to pull them up. I probably would have done the same thing.

I don't understand why the cops didn't just walk up there while he was face down, and cuff the guy. Instead the cop was just looking for an opportunity to use his weapon imo.

I can only think they wanted them away from the door, which is legit.

But damn slow down on all the contortion talk. Hands on head Turn around and back to me. How goddamn hard is that.

Lay down hand out hand in head cross kegs right over left place hands on ground push up get on knees hands up crawl all while screaming. I just left a convenience store, I had my hunting rifle laying on clothes in the front seat. All legal, I hate to think some paranoid goofball calls in me as a threat.

I could get shot because I can’t bakance a spinning plate or something.

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Lesson learned: If faced with a similar situation, I'm going spread eagle and "passing out."


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This cop would probably still murder you for "failing to comply"

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Probably. Damned if you do...

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Cop was looking for a reason to kill him. He escalated the situation from the get go.

"If you fall, fall on your face or were gonna shoot you." It's a fricking ingrained reaction to put your hands down when youre falling.

"Cross your legs and crawl toward me"

At that point you're waddling on your knees. How many people can pull that off sober, much less drunk, crying and with 4 ARs pointed at you with a guy screaming he'll kill you.


The suspect is down and cooperative. They had every opportunity to move in on him. Or like most departments, they could have had him stand and walk backwards with his hands behind his head. Instead, this murderer created a situation where there was going to be no fluid movements for thr suspect and nearly guaranteed he was going to stumble and make a quick movement that startled a trigger happy cop.

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I completely agree with you. He reminded me of someone with "little man syndrome. That was murder.

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He leaves his house every night wanting to get home to his family as well.

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Cry me a fricking river.

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Never happened. Though Robb keeps suggesting it, the window was unopened. The 3 were inside their room.

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Completely irrelevant. All that matters is what the police officers thought they were walking into. As far as we can tell, they were called to a hotel where a "gun" was being pointed out a window. That's all they knew. What they learned after the fact is not relevant.

But again, that cop should be in prison. They had ample opportunity to secure this 'suspect' or even just let him lay on his stomach - instead he amplified the situation and a drunk guy reach to keep his arse from showing, and got murdered. Terrible situation...both parties contributed to the outcome but it did not nearly approach "take down" scenario.