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re: They are afraid of the Tucker interview with Putin

Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:52 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
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Posted on 2/7/24 at 11:52 pm to
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Wow, it's like something happened in 2020 before Biden was even in office
March 2021 was not "before Biden was even in office." Sentiment was nearly 90. Over the ensuing year, it plummeted to 50. It has only recovered about 1/2 that loss.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124011 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:01 am to
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that caused a sharp dip
Incidentally, the cause of plummeting sentiment is obviously inflation.
The cause of inflation, though, was a demand-supply mismatch driven in this country largely by west coast restrictive transport regulations, port inefficiencies and union-based work stoppages. Instead of addressing the problem, pothole Pete took a couple of months off for childbirth, I guess recovering from his episiotomy?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
17838 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 2:50 am to
I remember back in the 80's when the mainstream media was in love with Gorbachev. They loved him while hating and trashing Reagan as much as they could. Times sure have changed. My opinion of the mainstream media has not. They are consistently on the wrong side of every issue. I hate them as much as I hate most politicians.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13445 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 3:43 am to
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that isn’t justification to invade a sovereign country.


Here we go with the tired and overused "sovereign country" routine. Need I remind you of the dozens of times the US has invaded sovereign countries over shat we stirred up to justify it. Or the times our intel fellas actually toppled govts. The list is quite extensive.

Russia was stopping the systematic slaughter of ethnic Russians in Donbas after years of warnings to leave them alone and not to expand nato to boot.

Now we will hear, oh we didnt "sign" an agreement dont cha know, just a wink and a nod, and besides the people who told the Russians that are no longer in office. Thats the same logic we use today since the signers of the constitution are dead....dont cha know.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 5:40 am to
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Here we go with the tired and overused "sovereign country" routine. Need I remind you of the dozens of times the US has invaded sovereign countries over shat we stirred up to justify it


You do have to laugh at Americans thinking that invading “a sovereign country” is somehow a gotcha moment that invalidates all further arguments.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5592 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:38 am to
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Like, for example, the US interfered in both Russian and Ukrainian elections? Like US entities use Ukraine as a money laundering vehicle? Like Burisma which is heavily interested in the Donbas is also nefariously involved with the Bidens? That kind of propaganda?


Yes. Exactly that propaganda. Putin will say anything to justify an invasion he previously told the world wasn’t going to happen. We know this because has done it already.

Would love to hear Putin be asked about Russian interference in Ukraine elections after the evidence is presented.

Corruption in Ukraine has been defined by the amount of Russian corruption over the years. So real questions about that.

Present Putin with evidence that Donbas was a Russian military operation back in 2014.

Real talk about what is already known but has not been admitted.

Not just open mike night.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:40 am to
Truth
Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:42 am to
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Would love to hear Putin be asked about Russian interference in Ukraine elections after the evidence is presented


Can’t be as bad as Victoria Nuland and company kicking off a revolution to overthrow a duly elected president because they didn’t like him. That was the actual start to this war. The US has intervened like this roughly 90 times since WW2 in various countries around the world, but muh unprovoked
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 6:46 am
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5592 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:52 am to
Haha, “didn’t like him”. There were serious allegations of vote rigging to get Yanukovych elected. And Yanukovych was corrupt as hell, he reversed course on Ukraine priorities, and was literally a Russian stooge trying to steer Ukraine back into Russian control. This is well documented.

Most noteworthy is that Paul Manafort was on Yanukovych’s payroll. The same Paul Manafort that became Trumps campaign chief for 4 months.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:00 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:57 am to
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Here we go with the tired and overused "sovereign country" routine. Need I remind you of the dozens of times the US has invaded sovereign countries over shat we stirred up to justify it. Or the times our intel fellas actually toppled govts. The list is quite extensive.


Including kingmaking in Ukraine.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:58 am to
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What lie was sold?



Before the invasion the left wing media called them the most corrupt country in the world and full of neo Nazis.

So, they were either lying then or lying now.

That’s just one thing.


A peace deal was on the table and Boris Johnson convinced Zalensky to not sign it. Extended the war and the money laundering.


Anyone supporting this is a disgusting fool.





This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:02 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:03 am to
Dumb Nazi count.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79757 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:11 am to
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Now why, after more than 4 years, is Putin deciding to allow a little man, who is not a journalist, or writer, just a mouthy pro-Trump proponent, being allowed to sit down with Putin


You’re so triggered, you can’t even write coherently.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:15 am to
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You’re so triggered, you can’t even write coherently.



Estrogen overload.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79757 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:15 am to
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Ukraine wasn’t joining NATO and Zelenskyy was elected by his own people. Even if you were right though, that isn’t justification to invade a sovereign country.


You know, I just realized…you really aren’t very bright.

Glib? Yes.
Disingenuous? Absolutely. Possibly the most disingenuous person on this board.

But you tend to just parrot what your masters tell you. And why? Because you perceive them to be more favorable to gay people.

That’s the crux of you, Mickey.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6853 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:17 am to
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Russia has already won the information war. Most of you are too stupid too realize it.


That'll happen when your own state-controlled media has been caught in lie after lie.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:40 am
Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
1034 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:17 am to
That crap is irrelevant. It’s not the birthright of the US to go half way across the world to overthrow a government. It’s completely ridiculous you back such moves
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5592 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:26 am to
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That crap is irrelevant. It’s not the birthright of the US to go half way across the world to overthrow a government. It’s completely ridiculous you back such moves


You brought up Yanukovych. Now you say it’s irrelevant?

And now Russia literally attempted to overthrow the Ukraine government with force.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:28 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260947 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 7:28 am to
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Russia literally attempted to overthrow a government with force.


We should always avoid information coming from these types of countries, correct?
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