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re: These guys need to be primaried IMMEDIATELY
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/5/19 at 8:54 am to AggieHank86
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If that vote splits down the middle, the Dem wins.
Do they employ jungle primaries like Louisiana? Otherwise, I don't see a split vote in the general election being a factor.
I can't imagine the current democratic party presenting a candidate that would appeal to voters that endorsed the GOP just a year and a half ago.
We'll have to see. Personally, I believe the power of incumbency will win the day.
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Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:03 am to Walkthedawg
Your list should include every senator.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:13 am to Walkthedawg
If you primary these guys, a Democrat will win their seats in 2020.
You do understand that at some level representatives have the obligation to actually represent their constituents, correct? Swing district representatives don’t have the luxury of grandstanding or being ideologues. At least not if they want to keep their job.
You do understand that at some level representatives have the obligation to actually represent their constituents, correct? Swing district representatives don’t have the luxury of grandstanding or being ideologues. At least not if they want to keep their job.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:14 am to Holden Caulfield
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I can't imagine the current democratic party presenting a candidate that would appeal to voters that endorsed the GOP just a year and a half ago.
And yet the midterms were full of examples of this exact thing happening.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:19 am to Indefatigable
The “moderates” that the GOP presented were not running on Trump’s agenda. In fact, despite his winning these districts these morons presented themselves as the anti-trump. This had the effect of depressing their support - and by contrast energizing Democrats.
RINOs are fricking delusional.
RINOs are fricking delusional.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:21 am to Walkthedawg
some of them made that vote because if they voted the other way they would lose their seat to a D.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:21 am to Walkthedawg
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:28 am to Wednesday
quote:HRC won Tx-23, yet Hurd did win over his Dem opponent by presenting himself as less of an extremist than Trump.
despite (Trump) winning these districts these morons presented themselves as the anti-trump.
I have trouble describing such successful strategy as being that of a “moron.”
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 9:40 am to sodcutterjones
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Step 2: Stop all immigration (legal as well as illegal) indefinitely until a time when congress can get their proverbial head out of their proverbial arse.
If you think this is possible you’re an idiot. Make whatever law you want you won’t stop illegal immigration if you outlaw legal immigration.
If you don’t understand this correlation you need to research human behavior
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:11 am to Wednesday
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RINOs are fricking delusional.
People who insist that the entire party must be in lockstep are equally as delusional.
Trump is a Republican because it was expedient. It really is not hard to understand why suburban, swing district Republicans distance themselves a bit. Something else people seem to not understand: there simply are more Democrats in this country than Republicans, and they pile up in urban centers where these districts are. Jim Jordan or someone similar is not coming out of these districts. They would lose by 30 points, because while a nominal Democrat may vote for a Will Hurd or similar, they are not voting for the tea party or the President’s agenda.
Someone who votes with you 2/3rds of the time is your ally. Not your enemy.
Primarying your electable moderates is a great way to get demolished in the general election.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:16 am to AggieHank86
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Primary those seven Congressmen from their Right, and the GOP loses those seven seats. Better to have their votes 75% of the time than to have seven Dem votes every time.
That's like saying your wife fricks you 75% of the time and fricks some other guy 25% of the time and you should be ok with it.
GOP should not be beholden to turncoats. Ever.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 10:16 am to Walkthedawg
Nebraska is cuck central
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:06 am to Indefatigable
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And yet the midterms were full of examples of this exact thing happening.
Do you mean the midterm where the sitting republican president was under investigation? Perhaps that played some small role in the Democrat's success? Maybe?
I think it's rather simplistic to refer to republican representatives as "moderate" every time they buck the party or their president.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:13 am to Tiger1242
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What’s the alternative?
well numb nuts let me put it in an easy way for even you to understand.
the boat is full and taking on water, every new person that climbs in the boat makes it harder for those in the boat to have room to bail out water and keep it afloat so it will sink faster.
now tell us again about how drilling new holes in the boat helps, which is the perfect analogy to what you support
or to put it even simpler, you want to make bank robbery legal so it reduces the number of people who get arrested for bank robbery
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 11:15 am
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:35 am to keakar
If the Trumpkins challenge those seven Repub Congressmen, look for Democrats to win most if not all those 7 districts.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 11:46 am to idlewatcher
quote:That is one TERRIBLE analogy. If your Rep is “married” to anyone, he is married to his constituents. If anything, the national party are members of his extended family.
That's like saying your wife fricks you 75% of the time and fricks some other guy 25% of the time and you should be ok with it.
If he acts to the benefit of his extended family and against the wishes of his spouse, she is quite justified in divorcing his arse.
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:05 pm to Walkthedawg
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quote: The seven Republicans who voted on Tuesday with Democrats to grant illegal aliens amnesty include: Congressman Don Bacon (R-NE) Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart(R-FL) Congressman Brian Fitzpatrick(R-PA) Congressman Will Hurd (R-TX) Congressman Dan Newhouse (R-WA) Congressman Chris Smith (R-NJ) Congressman Fred Upton (R-MI)
There's a shite load of D.C. Swamp Skunks that need to be primaried...why leave it to apathetic voters, give me congressional term limits along with some strict lobby reform and let's end this Swamp political system!!!!!
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:18 pm to AggieHank86
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Better to have their votes 75% of the time than to have seven Dem votes every time.
First, this thoughtful point well worth considering.
Then you follow with this irrelevant, insulting and inflammatory hyperbole (personally attacking your audience that you've apparently analyzed poorly) thereby failing rhetorically to earn their consideration or acceptance of your original point.
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Anyone who thinks that this forum’s ideal GOP candidate could win ANY of those districts is simply too stupid to be taken seriously on any point whatsoever.
WTF?
Relax!
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:45 pm to keakar
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the boat is full and taking on water, every new person that climbs in the boat makes it harder for those in the boat to have room to bail out water and keep it afloat so it will sink faster.
now tell us again about how drilling new holes in the boat helps, which is the perfect analogy to what you support
or to put it even simpler, you want to make bank robbery legal so it reduces the number of people who get arrested for bank robbery
Not only is your analogy idiotic in this case but it’s also totally miss aligned with what I’m saying.
So to use your boat analogy it’s more like this.
- The boat is taking on water because people are drilling holes in the bottom to drink the water.
-You could try and force them to stop with threats and barriers, but thirsty people are still going to drill holes to drink when they are thirsty
- OR you could give them incentives to stop like providing them with a better alternative to drilling holes in the boat, like a bucket of water or a hose, then the incentive to drilling holes in the bottom would be gone.
- With a realistic alternative to drilling holes in the bottom for water, you can fairly punish the people who continue to do so
The idea that the country is “full” is dumb, we are always in need of hardworking people who want to better themselves and the country
Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:15 pm to Tiger1242
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Here’s the reality some don’t want to face: If we are ever going to fix these illegal immigration issues it going to take THREE steps
Step 1: increase border security
Step 2: make it cheaper, faster, safer, and easier to immigrate legally than illegally
Step 3: provide either amnesty or a very accelerated path to citizenship and/or Visas for illegal immigrants already in the country
So many think just doing step 1 will fix something, it won’t. Until we make immigrating LEGALLY a simpler option than immigrating ILLEGALLY it’s going to continue. You need all 3 of those steps to help the problem
Here is the reality:
1. Build a wall and increase security
2. Require all here illegally to register within 30 days to undergo a review process for a path to citizenship or deportation depending on process
3. Those failing to register, upon discovery, will be arrested and, if convicted, sentence to 10 years, no parole. During that time, you will perform road repairs and other hard labor. Assuming you are not guilty of other crimes, you are entitled to the process under #2, if available, upon release.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 5:17 pm
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