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re: There’s no evidence that a single ‘gay gene’ exists

Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:53 am to
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:53 am to
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medicating away natural conditions will be attacked.


It already is to some degree, no different than introducing kids with learning disabilities / mental retardation into the mainstream classroom... Not only do you drag the classroom down, you decrease the ability to tailor learning toward the child's disability...

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"IT'S NATURAL SO WE'RE THE NEW NORMAL"


We have pretty much passed this point as well...
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 8:53 am to
The ones that code for dicks and pussies.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:05 am to
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100% chance someone did

I grew up in the mid-seventies, and it was an awesome time to be a kid. Every day someone would be called out for being gay or for having **** like tendencies. We were so lucky that only one guy in our group of neighborhood friends caught the gay because of our constant badgering. At some point he came out and said he knew he was gay before we ever called him a ****. Also he was just a normal kid to us, Road bikes, played ball, threw rocks at cars, A fight every now in then.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:10 am to
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EVEN THEN, the urges are biological in nature. the cause of that biological malfunction was abuse, however


By that definition all urges are biological and natural, including the ones we don’t want to lump in this thread that end up leading to the ones we’re talking about in this thread. That really the way we want to go?

Also, this thread hasn’t become a complete shite show, how?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:11 am to
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We were so lucky that only one guy in our group of neighborhood friends caught the gay because of our constant badgering


Reinforcing social norms may have helped.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:12 am to
And that loon calls herself a scientist.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:12 am to
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By that definition all urges are biological and natural, including the ones we don’t want to lump in this thread that end up leading to the ones we’re talking about in this thread. That really the way we want to go?

that's how i see it. i just said that i understand it's not polite these days to lump homosexuality in with other disorders but i don't care. there are differing degrees of things

but this goes beyond "disorders" we all have sexual preferences, up to the point of kinks. we have a very, very elementary understanding of this area, generally. when you expand it, it gets exponentially more hazy.

trying to create hard lines between mental, hormonoal and biological is like trying to create hard lines between chemistry, physics, and math. ultimately they all end up converging into a complicated system of all of them
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:13 am to
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And that loon calls herself a scientist.

well (a) it's personal so it become emotional and irrational plus (b) there is a history of equating homosexuality to all sorts of abhorrent behaviors (hence why in my last post i clearly said there are very different degrees/levels of biological malfunction in humanity)
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:17 am to
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vindicated in hate



Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:18 am to
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well (a) it's personal so it become emotional and irrational plus (b) there is a history of equating homosexuality to all sorts of abhorrent behaviors (hence why in my last post i clearly said there are very different degrees/levels of biological malfunction in humanity)


This reasoning is the same I’m sure that the results of this research was slanted as far in the “gay gene” direction as they could get away with. For progressives their ideology is their most personal aspect of their identity and it spills over into everything.

Basically why my first post in this thread was “means it’s really 3%”
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:20 am to
There may not be a gene but most gay people come out of the womb that way. I don’t know if it is genetics, mothers diet, hormones or some environmental factor but sadly the vast majority of the time gay is more than just a decision. The Stanford gay face study proves that beyond all doubt.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:22 am to
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most gay people come out of the womb that way.


Are you suggesting "some" are made or make an informed choice to be gay later in life?

Also, exactly what proof do you have that a newborn baby is gay the day it is born? It seems to me a newborn is interested in finding the tit or bottle, shitting, and sleeping when it is born.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:25 am to
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Could the lack of a positive male role model in the home present itself as homosexual tendencies in some people?


If this were true there would be a mucher higher rate of homosexuality in the black community which there isn’t.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35322 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:26 am to
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epigenetic


This has become a catch-all for all manner of quackery.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:28 am to
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We're talking about the reasons for people being gay, aren't we? The reason is they are tempted by sin and they submit to it


So a person who is solely attracted to members of the same sex isn’t gay as long at they don’t act on it? Really?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:28 am to
if you mean 3% of the population? i fully agree

trans people are even less

although that one study from Brown was really insightful into the social influence of trans identification. of course it was pulled. that kind of stuff irritates the hell out of me b/c that's what we need to be studying BUT those within the interest groups want to act like "it's normal so you have to just ACCEPT EVERYTHING (from a constantly changing subjective evaluation of myself that nobody else can observe, let alone study)"
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:34 am to
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if you mean 3% of the population? i fully agree


No the study tried to apply a percentage attributable to genetics. I think the high end was about 30, so really 3.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:36 am to
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So a person who is solely attracted to members of the same sex isn’t gay as long at they don’t act on it? Really


You have to define gay, because you can’t say sexuality is a complicated fluid and evolving state of personhood and also retroactively say someone was always gay once they engage.

Even the alphabet people believe that, hence the Q.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:33 am to
the quality or characteristic of being sexually attracted solely to people of one's own sex
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:36 am to
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