re: There was ONE Man

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God did this , how?

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You’ll need to go back to page 2.

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Muslim people believe in a false god, pray 5 times a day to satisfy their false god and want to kill all Jews and America so they can play in heaven with their many virgins except...

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This is a common trait to almost all false religions. They promise their adherents a prize that caters to the flesh.
Conversely, Jesus said,” all that follow me shall suffer persecution!”
We are also admonished in the Bible to crucify the flesh and die to self.

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Isiah 40:1-5 Comfort ye Comfort ye my people…..

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Yael…is that you?

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Paul - Jesus was the firstborn of creation, an angel who then created the universe

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I will address this one. Jesus was “born” in the sense that he was presented. In context in the New Testament, he was the eternal WORD of God and he created everything as God spoke creation into existence. You can read the verses that follow immediately and they clarify that Jesus was not created. You’re fundamentally not understanding the original thought being presented by Paul.

That’s ok, you have plenty of company in the Arian camp of those who fundamentally misunderstand or misrepresent passages as they relate to Jesus being a created being. Jesus was never an Angel either.

See you have, in several of your contentions, violated at least one of the three “C”s rule. Most people mess up scripture interpretations when they don’t check for 1.Consistency 2. Context 3.Customs/verbiage of the time. I don’t have time to get into the rest of your post but you butcher much of what you say in your post.

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Your statement is a symptom of cherry picking scripture or just regurgitating what your preacher says.

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So is yours when you consider all the absolute horrors the Israelites put on their enemies. I mean they had god keeping them asleep so they could get their throats cut and shite.

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You’re fundamentally not understanding the original thought being presented by Paul.

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To me, Paul consistently states Jesus is the firstborn (eldest) of creation, and then everything after that was created by God through Jesus. I think I understand Paul’s thought on this one.

ESV Colossians 1

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15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.

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KJV Colossians 1

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15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him

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Also ESV 2 Corinthians 5

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20Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

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Jesus was never an Angel either.

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Not according the the writer of Hebrews. He was a created being, made to be or became superior to the (other) angels. Note just like in Colossians, God and Jesus are clearly separate entities.

Hebrews 1

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3He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs. 5For to which of the angels did God ever say, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you”? Or again, “I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son”? 6And again, when he brings the firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.” 7Of the angels he says, “He makes his angels winds, and his ministers a flame of fire.” 8But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness beyond your companions.”

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Clearly Paul considers Jesus separate from God, and clearly Jesus is the leader of the angelic beings. Paul says Jesus will shout with the voice of an archangel. I don’t know how you can interpret that any differently. It is very clear.

1 Thessalonians 4

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15For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

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(And all this ending of the world will happen in Paul’s lifetime.)

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See you have, in several of your contentions, violated at least one of the three “C”s rule. Most people mess up scripture interpretations when they don’t check for 1.Consistency 2. Context 3.Customs/verbiage of the time

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I don’t think you’ve ever read the gospels either. Otherwise you wouldn’t have called what I wrote as “contentions”. I wasn’t asserting anything, but merely stating exactly what it says about Jesus creation/birth and the tomb scene in each gospel. If you’ll read just the last couple chapters of each gospel you’ll see my “contentions” are pulled directly from the gospels, and none of it was fabricated. The gospels state different and opposing “facts” about the same events. How are we to know which one is the right one?

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The original text, as I stated earlier, does not say Jesus was created...it says he was "firstborn" and Paul then clarifies he didn't mean Jesus was created by pointing out he was the conduit that created everything.

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I wasn’t arguing for my beliefs. I was simply pointing out the differences between the writings of Paul, Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John, and considering they are saying different and opposite assertions about the same events, how would we pick which to believe.

And Paul’s writings do say Jesus was created. I quoted several that you seem to be ignoring. Paul considered Jesus as a created being, the first of creation, and Jesus to be subservient to the Father. Jesus is a “son” after all who was begat by the father. Look up begat. There is no writing of Paul that conforms to the “eternally only begotten” son of the Nicene creed. That was made up by the church.

1 Corinthians 8:6

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yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.

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In Colossians and Hebrews, Jesus is the “prototokos” - the first born begotten (created) son. The same word “prototokos” is used throughout the old and New Testaments to describe literal firstborn sons. Ishmael is the prototokos of Abraham. Esau is the prototokos of Isaac. Get it? Paul wrote that Jesus was begotten (made) as the firstborn of God, and God and Jesus are separate in all of Paul’s writings. Paul always calls God the Father “Theos”. Paul always calls Jesus the son LORD “Kyrios”. Jesus is always called the son of Theos. Never ever does Paul ever call Jesus son of the LORD. Because Jesus is LORD (of the Old Testament aka YHWH). The father is NOT… i repeat NOT… YHWH.

Paul had a polytheistic worldview of Deuteronomy 32. I added parentheses with Hebrew/English/Greek. You can confirm in the Septuagint.

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8When the Most High (Elyon/Father/Theos) gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. 9But the LORD’s (YHWH/Son/Kyrios) portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage.

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Paul believed in the high god Elyon who was the father of all and had many sons, the firstborn of sons was YHWH who was given lordship of Israel by Elyon his father.

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plus you can clearly see in countless other verses/passages in the Old and New Testament that Jesus was not created.

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Maybe so. But not written by Paul. See what I’m saying now? Hey if you can find Paul saying Jesus was not the firstborn, learn me something. But if you found something like that, to me it would contradict his letter to Colossians and his letters to Corinth and Thessalonia.

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For example your contention is that Jesus was a created being, an angel, who then made everything else. First, according to the text you cite in Colossians here in plain English, you'd be wrong, in it's original text, you would be wrong

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You are demonstrating cognitive dissonance and/or not paying attention. In plain English and Greek in Colossians Paul clearly states Jesus was the firstborn of creation or firstborn of all creatures. I’m not arguing Paul’s assertion, and am not agreeing or disagreeing with him. I’m just stating what Paul states. Maybe it differs from Isaiah or Matthew or John but that is an actually what I was trying to point out. Then people like you who don’t like what Paul wrote because it doesn’t conform to your indoctrinated beliefs simply go to another passage in another book you like and claim you are interpreting scripture using scripture.

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If Jesus was not fully God as a member of the Trinity…

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In the gospels, Jesus prayed to… himself? No one knows when the end will come, not the son (Jesus), but only the father… sorry bud but I ain’t buying your Trinity. It isn’t even biblical. Arius had a point.

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God Almighty would be lying when he said it was HE ALONE who created all things.

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Maybe he was lying? He lied to Adam telling him if he ate the fruit he would die that very day, but Adam lived 900 years. He lied and deceived all throughout the Bible. And bragged about it.

1 Kings 22:22

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And the LORD said to him, ‘By what means?’ And he said, ‘I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ And he said, ‘You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.’

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Ezekiel 14:9

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And if the prophet is deceived and speaks a word, I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

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Jeremiah 20:7

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7O LORD, you have deceived me, and I was deceived; you are stronger than I, and you have prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all the day; everyone mocks me.

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Again you have a severe lack of understanding of scripture and you are telling on yourself here. You're trying to see out these "proof scriptures" that are generally violating one or more of the "3 C" rule I mentioned last night. This passage is in reference to the "Marriage Supper of the Lamb"

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Malarkey. Think about what you are saying. You are alleging Paul wrote to the Thessalonians in mainland Greece about something he thought would happen on the last day and included hidden meanings of a Jewish wedding ceremony that those gentiles would have known nothing about? You are purposely ignoring the passages’ plain and obvious meaning.

Paul wrote Jesus himself will descend with the voice of an archangel and the trumpet of God. I think I’ve got a better understanding of the scripture than you on this matter and on top of that I acknowledge what it actually says and I don’t use mental gymnastics to twist it into something it doesn’t say. I’m not arguing Jesus is or was an angel, only that Paul said Jesus was an angel.

Galatians 4:14

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and though my condition was a trial to you, you did not scorn or despise me, but received me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus.

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Ok next we have to go to Philippians 2: Paul believed Jesus was a divine spirit, firstborn of creation, and archangel, who took a body of sinful flesh so he could be killed like a man, and therefore earn his name “Jesus” and be exalted. Paul never considered Jesus to be equal to god the Father.

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5Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, 6who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7but emptied himself, by taking the form of a slave, being made in the likeness of men. 8And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Bro, again if I had the time I could painstakingly rip apart all these misunderstandings

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What is there to rip apart? Everything is right out the Bible.

When you are reading your bible thinking it is divinely inspired, remember this from Jeremiah 8:8…

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How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law (Torah) of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.

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Anyone who denies Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will NOT inherit HIS kingdom.

How have so many so called Christians cast this very fundamental tenet of the faith aside?

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There IS ONE Man

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I fixed it for you. He’s still very relevant