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re: There was no shooter at OSU

Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to
so they say they killed the suspect but haven't released his name. I wonder why this could be
Posted by Loserman
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:04 pm to
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That is actually the worst outcome for those of you who oppose citizens' rights to defend themselves.


That is NOT what the second Amendment is about.

The 2nd Amendment is for us to protect ourselves from the Federal Government.

It is one of the major accomplishments of the Left to actually get people to think it is about self protection.
This is why they now frame their argument as to "why does anyone need an Assault Rifle" for personal defense?

Both are incorrect views.

Again...

We have a 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves from an overreaching tyrannical Federal Government.
Self defense is ancillary to the fundamental right.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Self defense is ancillary to the fundamental right.


I would argue it's more corollary than ancillary.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:07 pm to
Do this
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:07 pm to
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There was no shooter at OSU
It was a car attack and mass stabbing


I think active shooter is kind of a generic term.

They aren't going to broadcast an active stabber.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:08 pm to
You are right. The founders understood the ability to defend ones' life and liberty from individuals as a given. Their focus was on the right to also defend those things from a tyrannical government, which is why the 2A was written in the first place, as an additional (some would argue the primary) check on government overreach.

The right to individual self defense shouldn't even be a talking point; it should be accepted by everyone. Firearms are needed by citizens to keep the government from stepping on their throats.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:09 pm to
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so they say they killed the suspect but haven't released his name. I wonder why this could be


Because his name is Mohammed Ahmed abdul Jabar.


He was a good baw and had just left mosque and was going to class to become a medical doctor/physicist.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101648 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Because his name is Mohammed Ahmed abdul Jabar.


Again, if this is the case, what purpose does the delay serve and how is it coordinated?
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:14 pm to
Everytime it's a Muslim it takes days to get the name.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:18 pm to
what was the purpose of scrubbing the transcripts of the gay club shooting in Orlando? the left loves to scrub the record when its one of their friends, which is almost always the case.
Posted by olddawg26
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:20 pm to
Saying it's a somolian refugee
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:21 pm to
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Common sense car regulation

If it only saves 1 life we must do it.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9711 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Saying it's a somolian refugee


They are usually Muslim as well.
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 12:54 pm to
Told you so
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:11 pm to
I reported that off the news. I didn't make it up. Blame the media.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:52 pm to
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It is one of the major accomplishments of the Left to actually get people to think it is about self protection.
This is why they now frame their argument as to "why does anyone need an Assault Rifle" for personal defense?
Self-protection includes "protection from the government". That is implied.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:55 pm to
they are still reporting a potential active shooter on their campus.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:01 pm to
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They are usually Muslim as well.

Abdul Razak Ali Artan

Story I just read said he was upset with OSU for lack of muslim prayer rooms.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111595 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Story I just read said he was upset with OSU for lack of muslim prayer rooms.


It's kind of amazing that OSU didn't have them.

ETA: OSU did indeed have a designated prayer room in the Student Union.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 3:04 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41724 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:03 pm to
Prayer room? Don't those guys carry around rugs so they can get down wherever they are?

Also, I think any bathroom would be an appropriate place for them to pray. They can get down over a toilet if they'd like. Others will think they are just hungover.
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