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re: There was an attempted coup against a sitting US President and the MSM is all but silent

Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:48 am to
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9203 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:48 am to
To be fair, if someone had killed Obama I might have celebrated a little....
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9646 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 6:51 am to
You know, just watched "Network" again last night, and it pretty much predicted all of this in 1976.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67920 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:03 am to
It is astounding that the MSM just sweeps this under the rug without a second thought.


Similarly to how they've paid little attention to Gov. Northam's support for infanticide.

It's really serious shite and it's buried out of sight.
Posted by selfgen
youngsville
Member since Aug 2006
1042 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:17 am to
quote:

He is both evil and a dictator. Both are on full display on a daily basis.


Please give examples. What is evil?
In what ways has he acted as a dictator?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23711 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:41 am to
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What a drama queen.

First of all, just because members of Trumps own administration were talking about invoking the 25th Amendment doesn't mean there was an attempted coup. They would have to get a majority of the cabinet, and then veto-proof votes from both the House and Senate. It NEVER would've happened.

Second of all, it was Republicans who were discussing it.


This post is so correct that it deserved repeating.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36041 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:50 am to
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What a drama queen. 

First of all, just because members of Trumps own administration were talking about invoking the 25th Amendment doesn't mean there was an attempted coup. They would have to get a majority of the cabinet, and then veto-proof votes from both the House and Senate. It NEVER would've happened. 

The 25th Amendment was implemented to provide a method for an incapacitated President. Trump wasn't in a coma, they just disagreed vehemently with his policies. That this method was even discussed by the Deputy AG and higher ups at the FBI, knowing full well the illegitimacy of the mechanism, is an absolute disgrace. And these are the very people who are supposed to enforce the Constitution. This kind of bullshite is more dangerous to a free society than Trump ever could be.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:51 am to
The 25th amendment is - by definition - constitutional. Can’t make a good case for treason on those grounds.

The whole investigation was related to whether anyone on Trump’s campaign team, or Trump himself, committed treason. The investigator is not committing treason for carrying out the investigation. .
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36041 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 7:59 am to
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The 25th amendment is - by definition - constitutional.

The 25th Amendment was passed as a direct result of the Kennedy assassination and the potential cluster frick that can follow an abrupt Presidential succession. When Reagan was shot in 1981, Section 4 was not invoked, despite him needing life saving surgery. There is nothing constitutional about invoking Section 4 of the 25th Amendment because you disagree with the President's politics.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:07 am to
Who says it was because of a disagreement in Policy, and not for serious suspicions regarding the best interests of the USA?

You are assigning a reason for the discussions regarding the 25th amendment when you have no knowledge of the reasons behind it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73645 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:08 am to
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This post is so correct that it deserved repeating.


Nothing about that post is correct
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12934 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:11 am to
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Who says it was because of a disagreement in Policy,


The purpose of invoking the 25th amendment is in case the President is incapacitated.

Any attempt to invoke the 25th amendment outside of that IS political.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36041 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:15 am to
Reagan was on death's door in 1981 and George Bush didn't exercise Section 4. Why do you suppose that is? If it was inappropriate to invoke when a President has just been shot and is in surgery, how in God's name is it appropriate when the President isn't incapacitated? Section 4 of the 25th Amendment has never been invoked in over 50 years of existence. The people who floated this idea are so consumed with hatred for the President that they're willing to ignore the reason the amendment was drafted and pass and 50 years of tradition because they lost.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:22 am to
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Reagan was on death's door in 1981 and George Bush didn't exercise Section 4. Why do you suppose that is? If it was inappropriate to invoke when a President has just been shot and is in surgery, how in God's name is it appropriate when the President isn't incapacitated? Section 4 of the 25th Amendment has never been invoked in over 50 years of existence. The people who floated this idea are so consumed with hatred for the President that they're willing to ignore the reason the amendment was drafted and pass and 50 years of tradition because they lost.
I think Bush-41 SHOULD have invoked the 25th while Reagan was temporarily incapacitated. It would have been better than Haig asserting that HE was “in charge” of the government.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:23 am to
Again, I haven’t seen anything about a disagreement in policy. What policy?

Trump chose to dismiss US Intelligence findings regarding Russia. The POTUS’ own words and actions raised concerns about whether he was compromised.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73440 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:25 am to
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Trump chose to dismiss US Intelligence findings regarding Russia. The POTUS’ own words and actions raised concerns about whether he was compromised.

Ok Andrew, nice call.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:25 am to
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There was an attempted coup against a sitting US President and the MSM is all but silent


Because they openly support it. Why are you surprised?
Posted by Goat Rider
Boulder, CO
Member since Feb 2018
947 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:26 am to
If anyone did to the Clintons what Macabe did to President Trump they’d have caught that disease that makes you shoot yourself in the back of the head, twice.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40806 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:27 am to
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Orange man bad for business.


shite he is actually great for business. What would they have to report about if orange man wasn't potus.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:27 am to
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When Reagan was shot in 1981, Section 4 was not invoked, despite him needing life saving surgery.


Was no need to invoke... Al Haig just grabbed the reins and declared himself in charge.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16736 posts
Posted on 2/18/19 at 8:27 am to
Does any of this constitute s crime? They discussed it - is that considered conspiracy or something?

I think opening an investigation in to the president without evidence of a crime is more of a slam dunk at this point.
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