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re: There Are Great Muslims, But Islam is a Problem

Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:38 pm to
Posted by NimbleCat
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:38 pm to
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Toddy! Meh- I don't think there are any good Muslims. Shittiest religion BY FAR.


Enjoy your first UpVote from me ever.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:40 pm to
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I fricking hate Muslims
you agree to throw out all the queers, and I'll agree to throw out all the muslims

deal?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26923 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:41 pm to
Mahmoud Abdul Rauf is a cool guy.

But I agree with Gad.
Posted by CommoDawg
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 9:59 pm to
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People need to remember: Islam would not be a religion without violence. The only reason it spread and dominated the Arabian peninsula is because Muhammad was a ruthless warchief who forced tribes and villages he conquered to convert or die.


Without the violence and imperialism of the Roman Empire, Christianity wouldn't have spread either
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82162 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:22 pm to
Mate I ate at Knights Steakhouse in Ann Arbor tonight
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:36 pm to
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ETA: Personally, I wish the whole world were Buddhist. Never hear about Buddhists starting shite, do you?


Just half of WW2 including atrocities that would have shamed the Nazis
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:45 pm to
Only 1/3 of Japan are Buddists.

60% follow NO religion.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:56 pm to
Interestingly Tojo’s grandfather was a Buddhist priest
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:58 pm to
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Never hear about Buddhists starting shite, do you?
if you pay attention you do. if you look a little, you'll see they are committing horrific crimes just like everyone else
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34819 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 10:59 pm to
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Meh- I don't think there are any good Muslims. Shittiest religion BY FAR.
wow next thing we know you’ll be on the Trump Train with that attitude
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:00 pm to
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I've known and worked for several great people who claimed Islam as their faith.


Me too, and I don't think they would actively do violence, but don't be fooled.

If muslims become the majority those 'nice' muslims would not lift a finger to save you from the radical ones who want you dead.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:01 pm to
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Without the violence and imperialism of the Roman Empire, Christianity wouldn't have spread either
totally untrue. christianity was spreading like wildfire despite persecution. what changed is the persecution. once constantine acknowledged it, christians could breathe a sigh of relief.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:01 pm to
Lebanon is the canary in the coal mine. They were kind to and open to Islam for decades. Now, they're subjugated by Islam.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22452 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:04 pm to
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Meh- I don't think there are any good Muslims. Shittiest religion BY FAR.



Not good enough for a coat but could I interest you in a lovely half cape?


And Mustafa Kemal was a great Muslim.
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53868 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:09 pm to
Yep, the answer is to kill them. It's like have a bacterial infection. Antibiotics kill some good bacteria but hopefully it kills all bad bacteria. You have to make these people extinct to win this war. Black flag is the answer!
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:09 pm to
gad hit the nail on the head. countries have been trying to address the effect, not the cause. the cause is islamic theology. ignorant americans don't know that there are debates between imams about the use of violence. they have been going on for centuries. if one side can't trump the other, how in the world is a western infidel supposed to know which is theologically more correct?

it just shows that islamic theology is convoluted enough to justify a peaceful approach AND a violent approach. that's why neither group of muslims can supersede the other.

it also shows that the war on terrorism will NEVER end. it's not a winnable war. every human would have to forget that jihad/fatwa existed so that no other person could ever take up that stance and use violence to employ it.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
142434 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:14 pm to
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Mustafa Kemal was a great Muslim
Ataturk? Allegedly liked little boys
Posted by 31TIGERS
Mike’s habitat
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:16 pm to
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The greatest muslims are ones that are not in America
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22452 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:20 pm to
He pretty much shut down Sharia and even bamned Muslim dress codes for 90 years. He dragged Turkey into the 20th century until Erdogam decided to return the Turks to the Bronze Age. Islam desperately needs more Ataturks. Whatever his flaws they pale beside Erdogan.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:21 pm to
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Islam would not be a religion without violence. The only reason it spread and dominated the Arabian peninsula is because Muhammad was a ruthless warchief who forced tribes and villages he conquered to convert or die.
precisely. someone knows their history.

mohammed's sect was failing and he was losing support. so, he turned to raiding in order to maintain a living. boom, islamic violence is justified. it goes all the way back to the beginning. turns out he was a really good general otherwise they would have been wiped out by the meccans

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It's not an "organic" religion like Christianity or Buddhism or Hinduism
yep. americans aren't aware of this but the vast number of muslims are either not muslim by choice or are nominal muslims who commit shirk all the time (such as nazars according to the wahhabis). so when someone touts the number of muslims on the planet, take that number with a grain of salt.
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