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Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:29 pm to Jbird
Trump is playing 4-d chess and will get what he wants passed by the dems. He's using hardball negotiation tactics with Schumer trying to preserve his visa lottery and chain migration he passed in the 90's. Does Schumer want these future Democrat dreamer votes or lose the constant inflow of low skill immigrants who vote dem? Both options are up to the dims and outlook is good for Trump getting what his constituents voted for him to get.
Art of the Deal indeed
Art of the Deal indeed
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:31 pm to Bison
quote:Wanna know how I know you dont know what the word imminent means?
shutdown was imminent months ago
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:32 pm to lacajun069
And?
We all have had employers screw us on PTO
Just last week my wife’s employer made major changes. Govt contractors aren’t immune from bad shite. That’s the nature of the beast when you mooch for a living
We all have had employers screw us on PTO
Just last week my wife’s employer made major changes. Govt contractors aren’t immune from bad shite. That’s the nature of the beast when you mooch for a living
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:33 pm to Bison
Serious question...
Where are you on the spectrum?
Where are you on the spectrum?
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:37 pm to SSpaniel
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Nah... it's on the Dems because they value the VOTES of undocumented illegal aliens over those of children who are United States citizens.
Fixed.
They don't care about the actual lives of illegals. That's giving them far too much credit.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:38 pm to Godfather1
This just in...COngress knew that the CR would end on the day they initially chose.
AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE.
AND SO DID EVERYONE ELSE.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:39 pm to Bison
Dems have been saying they will shut down the government over DACA for weeks.
Only sycophant retards will ignore the legislators of their own party in order to feel good and blame somebody else.
Only sycophant retards will ignore the legislators of their own party in order to feel good and blame somebody else.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:45 pm to SoulGlo
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Dems have been saying they will shut down the government over DACA for weeks.
And Ryan and McConnell have said they would bring a bipartisan immigration reform bill to the floor for a vote. Trump said he would sign one, then changed his mind once one was drafted and released.
This all after Trump rescinded DACA in May of last year and kicked it to Congress for a fix.
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Only sycophant retards will ignore the legislators of their own party
Indeed.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:46 pm to Bison
What you lefty’s fail to realize is that most conservatives want the government to shut down, especially the “non-essential” services.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 3:50 pm to roadGator
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Where are you on the spectrum?
I think through his posts he established that he is on the low end, medium range on his best days.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:07 pm to The Spleen
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And Ryan and McConnell have said they would bring a bipartisan immigration reform bill to the floor for a vote. Trump said he would sign one, then changed his mind once one was drafted and released.
Lindsay Graham doesn't count as "bipartisan" on immigration. Nice try.
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This all after Trump rescinded DACA in May of last year
Good on him
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kicked it to Congress for a fix.
That's where it belongs.
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quote:
Only sycophant retards will ignore the legislators of their own party
Indeed.
At least you admit it. That's the first step.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:16 pm to Bison
This shutdown won't effect the WH like the last one did the dems.
1. Last time, the republican base wanted a shutdown. It fell in line with their beliefs that government does too much. Dems are supposedly pro-big government and a shutdown does not go along with their beliefs.
2. Repubs are the second mouse that gets the cheese. Too many dems are on record of sky screaming about how bad a government shutdown is. Feinstein being a perfect example. They overplayed their hand in that regard. Now when those same people are voting to shut it down they become blatant hypocrites.
3. Dems are choosing the wrong hill to die on. To force a government shutdown (after dems already publicly stated how terrible it will be for everyone) over non-citizens does not sit well with A LOT of people including run of the mill independent moderates, despite what you may think.
I think this might end up biting dems in the arse. Guess we'll have to see how it all plays out.
1. Last time, the republican base wanted a shutdown. It fell in line with their beliefs that government does too much. Dems are supposedly pro-big government and a shutdown does not go along with their beliefs.
2. Repubs are the second mouse that gets the cheese. Too many dems are on record of sky screaming about how bad a government shutdown is. Feinstein being a perfect example. They overplayed their hand in that regard. Now when those same people are voting to shut it down they become blatant hypocrites.
3. Dems are choosing the wrong hill to die on. To force a government shutdown (after dems already publicly stated how terrible it will be for everyone) over non-citizens does not sit well with A LOT of people including run of the mill independent moderates, despite what you may think.
I think this might end up biting dems in the arse. Guess we'll have to see how it all plays out.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:32 pm to MSMHater
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But there is no way to spin this other than painting Dems as choosing illegal immigrants over the rest of America.
FIFY
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:32 pm to Bison
So you’re just going to gloss over the fact that conservatives are all about limited government.
Seems like shutting down non essential services is kind of perfect.
Oh, and you’re a moron.
<3
Seems like shutting down non essential services is kind of perfect.
Oh, and you’re a moron.
<3
Posted on 1/19/18 at 4:34 pm to BeeFense5
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Tax reform >>>>>>> government shut down
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:19 pm to Bison
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republicans focused on permanent tax cuts for the wealthy and major corporations instead of the operating budget for the coming year.
My taxes got cut too, and I'm not a 1%er.
I can't figure out how you even learned to breath and feed yourself.
You're such a stupid person. I bet you're family hates you.
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:47 pm to Bison
I spy with my little eye
An OP that watches
His wife frick another guy
An OP that watches
His wife frick another guy
Posted on 1/19/18 at 5:50 pm to i am dan
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You're such a stupid person. I bet you're family hates you.
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