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The Water Tower Was The High Ground

Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:15 pm
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:15 pm
Why did they have two SS CS teams in such close proximity of each other?

This diagram is from Wikipedia.



Why didn't they utilize the water tower (high ground)?




Front view of building shooter utilized.




Water Tower proximity to shooter's perch (right).




This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:19 pm
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:19 pm to
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Why did they have two SS CS teams in such close proximity of each other?
They were looking for a shooter in front of Trump. That’s why.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7503 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

They were looking for a shooter in front of Trump. That’s why.
Could have positioned one of the two teams on the water tower while keeping the other in one of the behind stage positions.

This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21038 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:24 pm to
Dan Bongino suggested placing a big arse truck in front of the building. If you don’t have the personnel use objects to block the view. But those dumbass SS agents would just let Crooks climb on top the truck, lol
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8665 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:25 pm to
The real shooter was on the Water Tower, duh.
Posted by GumplandTiger
Hoover, AL
Member since Jan 2015
1263 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:29 pm to
This is misleading because all of those trees are now full of leaves. Yes, they would have had a view of the roof from water tower, but not all of the rally imo.

The shooter tried to use the tree as concealment from the closest sniper team, but the second team able to get a clear shot.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7503 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:30 pm to
The trajectory of the rounds say otherwise.

This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:47 pm
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7503 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:32 pm to
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Yes, they would have had a view of the roof from water tower, but not all of the rally imo.
Correct and the fricking shooter wouldn't have been able to access any roof in that group of buildings. In particular the roof from which he took his shots. The other team would have been able to cover the audience and any thing across the highway.
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:36 pm
Posted by jfootball14
Member since Nov 2013
1743 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:33 pm to
Incompetence is the obvious answer
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:34 pm to
Sure looks like someone was there in this video. Check out 7:11

Water Tower shooter?

Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
7503 posts
Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:45 pm to
quote:

Sure looks like someone was there in this video. Check out 7:11
That's definitely suspicious as hell.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Sure looks like someone was there in this video


If you’re talking about the shadow that the camera loses during a gust, your shooter would be roughly half the size of a car.

If you’re shooting from the water tower, why do it from the top, then have to scale down a convexed ladder in direct view of two counter sniper teams, when there is a railed platform for stability?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/19/24 at 11:54 pm to
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I still don’t understand how the bullet is so low in that photo taken from a low vantage point.

Eta unless that bullet is not the one that hit his ear
This post was edited on 7/19/24 at 11:55 pm
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4561 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:17 am to
Did anyone see/witness a person(s) climbing down from that water tower?

There are some opinions that the two story building immediately behind the assassins position may have been a second shooter location. In your aerial photo of the two story building roofs find the more gray in color roof which would of been to the assassins right. Apparently there are photos out that show one of the second story windows is open on the gray roof building. Sound analysis give some indication that the first series of shots were more muffled giving the notion may have originated from inside the building.
Posted by Tower_Tiger12
Member since Jan 2021
1195 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 12:49 am to
You have to factor in the angle of the photo.. this was taken 4-6 feet below eye level of Trump. Rotate that vantage point to level and the bullet is on a gradual decline down and right at ear height.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 12:51 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24225 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:04 am to
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Why did they have two SS CS teams in such close proximity of each other?

Because they were covering different sectors. The team farther away from the shooter had their back to the shooter up until the final few minutes before the first shot.

The NYT (of all places, I know) put out a pretty good video of the shooting. If you go to about 1:20 it goes through the different layers of security and shows those two teams facing in opposite directions. Later in the video it shows footage of the one team actually turning around to start to ID the threat that's being communicated over the radio.

This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 1:06 am
Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3860 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 1:06 am to
Why? Too slopey. That there is class 4A dangerous slopey.
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
9998 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:47 am to
quote:

The NYT (of all places, I know) put out a pretty good video of the shooting. If you go to about 1:20 it goes through the different layers of security and shows those two teams facing in opposite directions. Later in the video it shows footage of the one team actually turning around to start to ID the threat that's being communicated over the radio.


And doing nothing to remove Trump from the stage once it has been established that there is a credible threat. Nice.

A shooter on the water tower that hit Trumps right ear would also have hit his left ear. The shadow on the right side of the apex of the tower gets bigger and smaller at the same time that the shadow on the right side of the tank gets bigger and smaller, as the camera focus in and out. Interesting.
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2640 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:58 am to
Couldn't be a SS agent cause the water tower has a slope on top.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
Member since Sep 2014
28101 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 5:59 am to
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