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The far easier way to address illegals is to deny them welfare benefits and go after the physical assets of those that employ them. Illegal running a weedeater for a landscaping service? Take the weedeater. Take the truck and trailer. Demagnetize the economy and they'll go home. But that won't happen because the Dems want dirty votes and the Reps want cheap labor.

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I just wonder if any of the owners will say, "hell, you build the wall and you can have the land". Patriotic kind of thingy.

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Yep, I'm sure Texans will just bend over.


Seriously, go visit Brownsville and report back.

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Sure, they worry about the trespassers.

But, I think landowners are smart enough to realize that something like a 20 foot wall is not going to stop anyone.

All you need is a ladder or a shovel

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Worry about trespassers is a bit disingenuous. Ranchers in Texas face huge economic costs associated with illegal immigrants ranging from destruction of property to potential lawsuits from people dying on their land.

I don't know how tall the wall will actually be, but it's been reported to be 55 ft tall and buried deep into the ground. So that will require a really big ladder and a lot of digging.

The simple point is, the wall, where properly enforced, acts as a much bigger deterrent than an open border or no no enforcement on the existing wall. In addition, turning over more authority (via law) to private property owners could alleviate trespassing.

This. My dad lived in Brownsville for years. We talked about the logistics last night. He mentioned in many places the wall cuts farmland leaving a lot of farmland in US territory on the Mexico side of the wall. The solution, holes in the wall where access roads exist so farmers can move equipment around and do their job.

Holes. Not gates. Just gaps with a road in the middle. No guards. Nothing. fricking government at its finest.

The idea of a wall sounds good except when you look at the reality of the local situation. People on both sides travel back and forth everyday as part their everyday lives. Hell my dad went across everyday to go to his job in Mexico.

Rather than sinking money into a wall, a nice start would be actually enforcing our existing laws first. Mexican immigration laws are much more strictly enforced than our own. If my dad forgot his work papers, the guards he was on a first name basis with at the plant he ran would not allow him on property because the fine if caught was significant. Something in the neighborhood of 50,000 USD per offense.

Enforce the laws we actually have. Provide a deterrent to employers hiring illegally. Try these first before spending a fortune on something that would only be a detriment to the local economy.

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You're so fricking desperate. I'll bet those landowners are more tired of the bodies and criminals they find on their property than the nominal amount of land they'll lose.

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Nominal? The Rio Grand area wall will have to be built a mile from the border, at a minimum. There are houses on the other side of the wall already.

People have to use gate codes to get to their homes.

There's going to be a huge fight against the wall in Texas, even though most are conservatives.

It's not a conservative/liberal "you're so desperate" thing. Go to Brownsville and report back.

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Seriously, go visit Brownsville and report back.

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You seem to be familiar with the area so, is there a problem with illegals crossing in the Brownsville area as opposed to "in the middle of nowhere Bumfrick, Texas?"

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That's not the only thing. There's a shitload of environmental impact red tape he's going to have to overcome as well as justifying the cost as we approach $20T in debt.

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Do as Obama would strike down any environmental obstacles with executive orders.

U.S. government will buy any property needed. Also, people that have property on the border already have issues. Fences are cut all the time, vacant homes/hunting camps are broken into. In fact, if you have a hunting camp anywhere along the border most of them are unlocked with a sign on the door that asks people in spanish not to break things.

The larger ranches that are game fenced have big ladders going over them every couple of miles to try and keep their more expensive fences from getting cut or destroyed.

People that don't go near the border have no idea what has been going on down there for the past 15 years. No idea.

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Don't forget due process my delicate little flower.


Please don't ever call me that again

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You're such a delicate flower that you post on an anonymous message board a directive to not call you a delicate flower? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

Did it go over your head, that you made his point? You are indeed with 100% certainty a delicate flower, and a snowflake I might add.