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The USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier strike group heading for the Mediterranean
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:39 am
The USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier strike group was heading for the Mediterranean on Sunday amid rising tensions between the West and Russia.
The nuclear-powered Nimitz class warship and her 5,000-strong crew will take part in NATO exercises called Neptune Strike 22, AP reports.
Naval Striking and Support Forces NATO, led by 6th Fleet Commander Vice Adm. Gene Black, is overseeing the joint international deployment.
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The nuclear-powered Nimitz class warship and her 5,000-strong crew will take part in NATO exercises called Neptune Strike 22, AP reports.
Naval Striking and Support Forces NATO, led by 6th Fleet Commander Vice Adm. Gene Black, is overseeing the joint international deployment.
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Posted on 1/23/22 at 10:50 am to SouthEasternKaiju
The Truman and her CSG have been in the Mediterranean for a month now. Breitbart is way late with this announcement. They've been to Tunisia, Crete, Albania, and are probably on their way to Split, Croatia right now. My saying this does not violate any OPSEC rules because the Truman is openly displaying this information on their FB page. Yeah, I'm kind of vocal about Biden's potential plans to use our military assets and military members to protect and defend his Ukraine "income". I've got skin in the game. My granddaughter is on the Truman.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:02 am to BFIV
Damn, that's some shoddy reporting. Heading out on Sunday left me to believe it was heading out to cross the pond, not that it was already there.
Thanks for the info!
Here, from the link within Breitbart's own story, from another Breitbart article (sourced by AP News)
The USS Harry Truman and its carrier group have been in the Mediterranean since mid-December. The aircraft carrier was to join the area of operations of the central command (Centcom) but US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin decided at the end of December to keep it in the Mediterranean to “reassure” Europeans amid tensions with Russia.
So by 'heading out', I assume that's technically correct as it's leaving the dock? Or maybe moving from one part of the Med to the other?
Sounds sus to me, the way it was written in the other article up top.
Thanks for the info!
Here, from the link within Breitbart's own story, from another Breitbart article (sourced by AP News)
The USS Harry Truman and its carrier group have been in the Mediterranean since mid-December. The aircraft carrier was to join the area of operations of the central command (Centcom) but US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin decided at the end of December to keep it in the Mediterranean to “reassure” Europeans amid tensions with Russia.
So by 'heading out', I assume that's technically correct as it's leaving the dock? Or maybe moving from one part of the Med to the other?
Sounds sus to me, the way it was written in the other article up top. This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:14 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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The USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier strike group heading for the Mediterranean
Just one stinking carrier strike group? The Russians will laugh at that. And then there's Turkey right there. Will they let us fly over their NATO airspace? Need a base in Romania before there's a coup there.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:18 am to aTmTexas Dillo
I think the big news is that we 'announced' something which was known, likely already scheduled but now is being portrayed as a 'bold counter response ' to Russian aggression. Or something.
Nations play games like this all the time. It really is weak tea, especially coming from little stick Joe.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:19 am to SouthEasternKaiju
The Truman CSG sailed to the Med from Norfolk on December 1.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:21 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Nations play games like this all the time. It really is weak tea, especially coming from little stick Joe.
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little stick Joe
But can't he beat us in a push up contest?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:25 am to BFIV
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Yeah, I'm kind of vocal about Biden's potential plans to use our military assets and military members to protect and defend his Ukraine "income". I've got skin in the game. My granddaughter is on the Truman.
Hats off to her. I doubt the US will get directly involved, but if we were to, I’d imagine we’d be able to fight off any threat to a carrier. A US carrier getting hit almost ensures nukes are being brought out anyway. Is she part of an air wing or the carrier itself?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:28 am to rmnldr
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Is she part of an air wing or the carrier itself?
She's part of an air wing.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:29 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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The USS Harry S. Truman aircraft carrier strike group was heading for the Mediterranean on Sunday amid rising tensions between the West and Russia
Somewhere Bill Kristol is reading this in a dark room rubbing one out!
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:45 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Just one stinking carrier strike group? The Russians will laugh at that.
The Truman CSG includes four guided middle destroyers. That’s almost 400 tomahawks. One CSG can frick up a lot of shite.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:54 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Not me. Joe can barely walk in a straight line.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:56 am to lsufan1971
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The Truman CSG includes four guided middle destroyers. That’s almost 400 tomahawks. One CSG can frick up a lot of shite.
Your dealing with a country at the border of Ukraine and at the northern range of our reach over the Black Sea. Russia has an unlimited supply of ground based aircraft and other munitions at their fingertips. If we were moving toward conflict, and I don't think WE are, you'd need a larger force available.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 11:57 am to lsufan1971
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The Truman CSG includes four guided middle destroyers. That’s almost 400 tomahawks. One CSG can frick up a lot of shite.
Surely a force of 100k will have some substantial anti-missile defenses, right?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:27 pm to upgrayedd
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Surely a force of 100k will have some substantial anti-missile defenses, right?
Yes, they do, but no surface ship is invincible. There are other assets available and present that are not public knowledge. Fleet veterans and active duty personnel know what I mean. OPSEC comes into play here.
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:29 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
So we have a morally and ethically inept President suffering from dementia who is about to get into a shooting war with Russia.
But hey, at least he doesn’t tweet mean things, right? (BTW, I do not like Trump but he was head and shoulders above Geriatric Joe)
But hey, at least he doesn’t tweet mean things, right? (BTW, I do not like Trump but he was head and shoulders above Geriatric Joe)
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:32 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Can you imagine a Carrier named Joe Biden?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:36 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
Are we just going to gloss over the fact that active military assets have Facebook pages now?
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:40 pm to lsufan1971
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The Truman CSG includes four guided middle destroyers. That’s almost 400 tomahawks. One CSG can frick up a lot of shite.
What will be interesting is when Russia establishes air superiority/control over Ukraine from Belarus. They shipped 2 of their S400 battalions there.
That could be considered an act of war by Belarus. A few of those Tomahawks could resolve the situation.
This post was edited on 1/23/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 1/23/22 at 12:43 pm to BFIV
The biggest thing a CSG can provide is BMD in the kind of threat environment that will exist if Russia invades Ukraine. You’d need about three or four more carriers to have the AEW and EW capabilities to put together a sufficient strike package that can even survive going into that environment. Without massive standoff capability from strategic bombers, saturation strikes of cruise missiles from surface and underwater vessels, and a shite ton of land based fighters for CAP, there’s no chance in hell the navy is going to risk putting their aircraft against any Russian targets. Nevermind it being unpalatable for the American public.
Defending Ukraine directly is almost certainly out of the question unless you see a massive deployment akin to REFORGER coming down the pipe, rapidly. The best thing a CSG can do is provide BMD and long range AEW/ELINT.
Defending Ukraine directly is almost certainly out of the question unless you see a massive deployment akin to REFORGER coming down the pipe, rapidly. The best thing a CSG can do is provide BMD and long range AEW/ELINT.
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