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re: The U.S. just declared war on EU countries by sabotaging the Nord Stream Pipelines.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:54 am to Texaggie96
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:54 am to Texaggie96
If you are right about the pipelines being currently shutdown it gets really confusing.
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Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:55 am to GumboPot
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Yes, IIRC it was at the Freeport TX LNG facility. It’s my understanding it was a relatively minor incident.
It was Freeport, which in total accounts for 15% of exports. That train now won't restart until November and might not be at full operating capacity until spring.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:56 am to Havoc
Yes
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:01 am to Jack Carter
LINK / did someone see right leaning leaders being elected in europe? there is no going back now.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:04 am to GumboPot
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Makes no sense for the Russians to sabotage themselves. All they had to do was turn a valve.
You don't understand how Putin operates.
He manufactures scenarios where Russia isn't the bad guy.
Just look at his "justification" for invading Ukraine in the first place, or, better, his "Ukraine is the aggressor" argument from a week or 2 ago.
If Putin sabotages the pipeline, then he's no longer the bad guy denying Europe nat gas. This is exactly what he'd do for that exact reason.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:06 am to GumboPot
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GumboPot
You have no evidence that the U.S. is responsible for this
Yet you speak as if you somehow have perfect information on the topic
This is cringe even for you
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:07 am to Texaggie96
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Why was Nord stream 2 even populated with LNG vs inert gas.
It never had LNG. And I don’t understand your questioning about “inert gas” unless you are talking about drying the line with N2 after hydrostatic testing.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:07 am to LuckyTiger
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:08 am to LuckyTiger
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There is a sizable, powerful bunch in DC that really, really want a lot of people to die in a war between us and Russia, proxy or not.
And, frighteningly, those people are largely running or at least strongly influencing the US government now.
I don't disagree with this. Sabotaging the pipeline makes war with Russia less likely and destroying relations with the EU more likely.
Europe is more dug in with the response to Russia than we are. They're the ones running the show (logistics, negotiations, etc.) for the most part.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:09 am to GumboPot
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All they have to do is turn a valve. Makes zero sense for the Russians to sabotage themselves.
Yeah...because Putin is above pulling off a false flag operation right?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:10 am to LuckyTiger
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And again, if the pipeline isn’t being used for the foreseeable future, why not self sabotage it?
Exactly. It's pretty clear what's going on.
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A lot of pro Putin Russian media is running with “Biden said the US would do this”
Just watch the same arguments being made on this board.
Then watch those same people deny that they've been influenced by Russian disinformation the past decade
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:11 am to skidry
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I’m my opinion, it’s more about the ruble.
Yes, certainly a big reason.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:11 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just watch the same arguments being made on this board.
Then watch those same people deny that they've been influenced by Russian disinformation the past decade
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:15 am to GumboPot
Bless your heart
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:16 am to GumboPot
This green energy thing is a cover for their religion of total decimation. The only reason they want to force this onto everyone is to depopulate the West and allow non-Europeans to dominate.
It is in everything they preach; it is the result of every action they take.
It is in everything they preach; it is the result of every action they take.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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Just watch the same arguments being made on this board. Then watch those same people deny that they've been influenced by Russian disinformation the past decade
Putin said he invaded Ukraine because of NATO advancement but the politicos and media in the West tell us he invaded Ukraine because he is a big meanie.
Biden tells us that we have the capability of sabotaging Nord Stream pipelines and to “not worry about it”.
How about we first listen to the words of leaders for the reasons they take actions instead of inventing reasons after the fact? You know, Occum’s Razor and stuff.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:22 am to GumboPot
Was it NS 2 only that was tore up?
If so, this gas wasn't being delievered to German or EU. They had stopped the flow to punish Russia. So it wasn't going to be used anyway.
But Germany may have relented and opened it up as the winter went on and they may have pushed the US into proposing a peace deal with Ukraine/Russia. We know the US and EU thwarted the peace deal back early in the war. That has been exposed. So maybe this was the US taking away the temptation of Germany giving into the Russian gas.
But maybe Russia did it and they could have plausible deniability and blame the US or EU, because "why would we destroy a potential income stream". Then Germany or EU wouldn't get this gas through the winter for sure. Russia could then take the gas that would be in NS2 and sell it elsewhere and make a killing.
If so, this gas wasn't being delievered to German or EU. They had stopped the flow to punish Russia. So it wasn't going to be used anyway.
But Germany may have relented and opened it up as the winter went on and they may have pushed the US into proposing a peace deal with Ukraine/Russia. We know the US and EU thwarted the peace deal back early in the war. That has been exposed. So maybe this was the US taking away the temptation of Germany giving into the Russian gas.
But maybe Russia did it and they could have plausible deniability and blame the US or EU, because "why would we destroy a potential income stream". Then Germany or EU wouldn't get this gas through the winter for sure. Russia could then take the gas that would be in NS2 and sell it elsewhere and make a killing.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:23 am to GumboPot
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Biden tells us that we have the capability of sabotaging Nord Stream pipelines and to “not worry about it”.
He said we would put an end to Nortstream 2. We placed sanctions on the pipeline in February of this year. In March of this year we got support from Germany who suspended certification of the pipeline.
You could just completely ignore that happened and immediately put your tin foil hat on like you normally do. Or you could try something different and stop sounding like a complete clown for once in your life.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:24 am to jp4lsu
Both of them were sabotaged and are currently unusable.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:24 am to GumboPot
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Putin said he invaded Ukraine because of NATO advancement but the politicos and media in the West tell us he invaded Ukraine because he is a big meanie.
Tomato tomato
NATO is a defensive pact. Only an insane person would fear their offensive capabilities.
When has NATO ever done an operation with UNSC approval? Never, I reckon.
Does Russia have the ability to veto any UNSC proposal? Yes.
So what is Putin afraid of?
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