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re: The Urban Family Exodus Is a Warning for Progressives

Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 12:23 pm to
Check out the total fertility rates in Spain and Italy, two overwhelmingly Catholic cultures :

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Italy and Spain have TFRs of 1.27 and 1.37 apiece, roughly around “lowest low.” Across the English Channel, the United Kingdom has crashed from a TFR of “just under 2” in 2012 to 1.58, the lowest since 1938 when records began. For the first time ever, more than half of women aged 30 in England and Wales are childless. This is not a normative condemnation but a descriptive statement. Meanwhile, France stands at 1.85, Germany at 1.54, and Austria at 1.53. The northern countries are similarly low: Holland at 1.66, Denmark up at 1.72, Sweden reaching a ten year low of 1.67, and Norway at 1.48.


And consider that China is on pace to go from 1.4 billion ( not exact ) to down in the 700 millions. A true depopulation bomb.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Check out the total fertility rates in Spain and Italy, two overwhelmingly Catholic cultures :



Lots of "Catholics" use birth control. Our housekeeper, who is more like family now, is from Nicaragua. She professes to be Catholic but had her tubes tied. We're (unexpectedly) expecting our third next month and she keeps trying to convince me to get my tubes tied after the delivery. It's like people forgot that no birth control is part of being Catholic.

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And consider that China is on pace to go from 1.4 billion ( not exact ) to down in the 700 millions. A true depopulation bomb.



Even African countries are experiencing declining birth rates, which is pretty shocking.




I wonder what this will mean for the future.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87349 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:12 pm to
It's schools and perceived crime.

2020 saw migration everywhere, all blamed on COVID. The reports rarely mentioned that people were fleeing being restricted in urban areas and not being able to send their kids to school. Even less that they were fleeing the riots and crime spikes.

But that's what happened, and anyone who did that journey or live in a neighborhood that turned over on account of it knows it. Nearly our entire friend group in the neighborhood consists of families with young kids who moved from in town Atlanta or other cities in 2020.

Unfortunately, lots of these people will still vote for Democrats.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70466 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:33 pm to
Tbh, I think cost of living (particularly housing prices) is the number one issue, but bad/unsafe public schools and a lack of safe public spaces are easily #2 and #3. Progressive policies have contributed to all three of these problem areas.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11231 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:52 pm to
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All are deterrents to bringing children into the world


Which is why these weirdos target children. They ain't about having their own, so deter where they can and coerce the rest.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
5198 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 2:58 pm to
"The future belongs to those who show up"

We are in a very weird point in time in human history where anti-family, childless people have a lot of political and social power but their power will be brief, because they will quickly die out.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:19 pm to
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What even the Libs think but don’t say out loud is that all of the policies in these cities have made them dangerous and a terrible place to raise kids.


No. I disagree. Look at the areas in the study. All heavy blue areas. All of them.
What they won't say out loud is that their own ideology, the destruction of normal values, has dropped their own reproduction.
The modern, feminist woman, isn't desirable to men for long term. The modern, feminist women, don't want men long term. And they sure won't sacrifice their career to have babies.
Men also don't want to have kids with those women, because they know they'll be paying child support on them when the witch tries to make him her child support retirement plan.

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What even the Libs think but don’t say out loud is that all of the policies in these cities have made them dangerous and a terrible place to raise kids.

What they won't say is also that those policies make THEM dangerous and terrible to RAISE kids.
Why even argue this? Progressives aren't reproducing like rats. That's a part of the win.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:27 pm to
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has contributed to the increased exodus of families and businesses from the state.


Are they, though?
Or are they pushing the rats off the ship and forcing them to swim to other shores?
Cali ain't gonna lose as much tax revenue as it has been from the exodus, without having a plan for why they'd lose it.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:35 pm to
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Dems are not reproducing fast enough? That sounds perfect, actually. Time to implement the paid sterilization of all those on the dole. Get your tubes tied or your hose clipped and get it paid for and a nice $2500 check. Let’s do this tomorrow.


Shet, I'm not on the dole. Can I still get a free clip and the $2500??
I don't wanna pay child support, and mandatory DNA testing on birth certs hasn't passed on my state yet.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:44 pm to
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Jefferson Parish, for example, had to close 12 or more schools in the last few years due to declining enrollment.


Jefferson Parish.
In Louisiana. Considered to be New Orleans.
Democrat city.

Not a great example. Unless you're subconsciously fighting to prove us right.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 8:59 pm to
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And consider that China is on pace to go from 1.4 billion ( not exact ) to down in the 700 millions. A true depopulation bomb.


China is a bad example tho. China culls their population. Getting rid of female babies, population control, and then there's the mass graves recorded from satellite.
So in my eyes, China reaps what it sows.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:01 pm to
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Jefferson Parish. In Louisiana. Considered to be New Orleans. Democrat city.


Couldn’t be farther from the truth. Jefferson Parish, which elected Steve Scalise and Donald Trump, is extremely conservative.

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Not a great example. Unless you're subconsciously fighting to prove us right.



You just don’t know anything about the greater New Orleans area.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 5:00 am
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143804 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:07 pm to
Single cat ladies and homosexuality might eventually save our Republic.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:07 pm to
How many cats do you have?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:15 pm to
We can only hope.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13557 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:41 pm to
Why would anyone want to raise children in many of these crime ridden and overpriced urban areas? I’m not surprised by this at all
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65819 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:47 pm to
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The share of women under 40 who have never given birth doubled from the early 1980s to the 2020s.


I doubt this is true once you add back the number of women who murdered their offspring in the womb.

Those women gave birth to their murdered child, they just pretend they did something else.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65819 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:47 pm to
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Single cat ladies and homosexuality might eventually save our Republic.


True. It will slowly kill off the left.

The hard part will be holding back their awful ideas long enough for that to come to fruition.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 4:58 am to
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I doubt this is true once you add back the number of women who murdered their offspring in the womb.

Those women gave birth to their murdered child, they just pretend they did something else.


It’s not that simple.



Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32720 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 6:11 am to
Interesting that the CDC doesn’t include California in their stats.
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