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re: The tribalism is so out of control and ignorant.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:56 am to The Maj
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:56 am to The Maj
quote:they are the problem, Congress that is. So no, to your point, they aren't going to fix themselves.
Expecting career politicians to fix our broken system is ridiculous... Honestly, our system is broken to the point, that the only "fix" is to tear it all down and start over...
(worth noting OP lays no blame at Congress' feet, only Trump so his intent is evident and it isn't to lobby for spending cuts)
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:58 am to sidewalkside
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Now Trumps budget reinstates all those DOGE cuts spending and increases the size of the govt adds trillions to the debt and people are pissed that R's voted "no"
because the fricking Congress would not codify them into law
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:00 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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but they don't feel the need to bitch on the internet about every little thing that doesn't go their way.
LMAO have you seen this place? That's literally ALL they do. Moron
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:03 am to ynlvr
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Honest
An election is always around the corner and the house is the most sensitive to this pressure. It’s never going away. Choosing to not do your platform because some in your party may lose elected positions over it says that your platform is just propaganda you have no intention of attempting.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:06 am to I20goon
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worth noting OP lays no blame at Congress' feet, only Trump so his intent is evident and it isn't to lobby for spending cut
You're an idiot. I'm blaming Trump AND all the R's that voted for it and calling out all the MAGAtards here (like yourself) that want to hang R's who voted "no" based on principle and not wanting to increase the deficit.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:09 am to sidewalkside
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The flip flopping tribalism "it's ok if our guy does it" but I don't really care about principles is ridiculous.
It's more like a "i don't like that our guy is doing this but my only alternative was to be governed by a bunch of radical leftwing lunatics who hate me and want to destroy the country" situation.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:12 am to sidewalkside
People need to understand that the GOP just picks out a few things to cut that the Dems will cry about, redirect the money elsewhere, and hope that libs-owning will fool their rustic dumbass base.
The Dem version of this is just shoveling pluralistic liberalism and environmental projects (DEI initiatives and green-washing corporate subsidies) that costs very little in the grand scheme while not addressing the substantive, expensive, and corporate hostile things their base actually wants.
The Dem version of this is just shoveling pluralistic liberalism and environmental projects (DEI initiatives and green-washing corporate subsidies) that costs very little in the grand scheme while not addressing the substantive, expensive, and corporate hostile things their base actually wants.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:13 am to sidewalkside
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The flip flopping tribalism "it's ok if our guy does it" but I don't really care about principles is ridiculous.
All it took was Trump calling it Big and Beautiful for them to fall in line.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:15 am to L1C4
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They only care that their "bro" got a win.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:16 am to sidewalkside
quote:I've been somewhat supportive of the no voters.
You're an idiot. I'm blaming Trump AND all the R's that voted for it and calling out all the MAGAtards here (like yourself) that want to hang R's who voted "no" based on principle and not wanting to increase the deficit.
But even some of the no voters are doing it out of pure self interest.
And that self-interest is always to stay in power.
As long as they can frick us over specifically to help themselves, they will.
But yes, your OP mentioned Trump multiple times and congress once as a sidearm to Trump, let's revisit shall we:
quote:So why is not Congress' budget? Why the only mention of Congress is "Trump/Congress".
We were all cheering DOGE and the cuts they were teeing up for Trump/Congress.
Everyone has been screaming about smaller govt, less spending, lower/no deficit.
Now Trumps budget reinstates all those DOGE cuts spending and increases the size of the govt adds trillions to the debt and people are pissed that R's voted "no"
I'm just calling it what it is in the 1 of 2 threads you made about the subject. Oh, and the other one, was all about Trump missing an opportunity to call it the magnificent bill.
So I'm all for railing against not getting spending cuts and everyone involved in it. But you are no better than ABC or NBC. You have outed yourself as one of the tribes in the tribalism you purport to hate by directing your blame in only one direction.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:23 am to I20goon
I'm not reading all that. You can continue to scream I have TDS like the retard you are.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:25 am to sidewalkside
So, this bill is the definitive be-all-end-all bill of Trump's four-year term that was four months old yesterday? No change after this? 
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:27 am to sidewalkside
quote:probably for the best with your disability and all.
I'm not reading all that. You can continue to scream I have TDS like the retard you are.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:27 am to The Maj
quote:
Expecting career politicians to fix our broken system is ridiculous... Honestly, our system is broken to the point, that the only "fix" is to tear it all down and start over...
Expecting EVERYTHING (decades of entrenched corruption) to be fixed four-months into a four year term is insane.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:28 am to saints5021
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I view this as a baseline to get us out of the continuous CR loop. Let the DOGE cuts be separate bills so that the public really understands how bad it was.
Exactly. The crying like everything is over with this one bill, four months into Trump's term is insane.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:32 am to sidewalkside
There are idiots on this forum who call themselves Conservative who don’t even have any idea what the frick that actually means. Hell, they probably can’t even spell it.
They have no political ideal except Trump- whatever Trump wants- even if it betrays what they claimed to believe, yesterday, and they’ll demonize actual Conservatives who vote for the very policies and political goals they claimed to hold just a few weeks ago.
Those are some supremely STUPID motherfrickers.
And entertaining, too.
They have no political ideal except Trump- whatever Trump wants- even if it betrays what they claimed to believe, yesterday, and they’ll demonize actual Conservatives who vote for the very policies and political goals they claimed to hold just a few weeks ago.
Those are some supremely STUPID motherfrickers.
And entertaining, too.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:33 am to sidewalkside
Doge cuts weren’t included in this tax cut bill because you have GOPe congressmen that will fight them. We’d end up in an endless fight and you would have taxes blow up to an epic level when it didn’t pass. Better to hit those cuts in a separate bill or bills and let the Medicare cuts go through on this one.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:34 am to Bring Da Wood
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We’d end up in an endless fight
I thought that's why we sent Trump to DC.
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:34 am to BTROleMisser
quote:it is for that reason, time/timing, I don't understand the 'one big bill' strategy at all, one bit.
Exactly. The crying like everything is over with this one bill, four months into Trump's term is insane.
If you are in the early phases of some grand strategy, then why not take smaller (and more manageable) bites and do smaller bills.
You have the low hanging fruit of any waste/fraud (not 'regular cuts') from DOGE finding.
I get that tax cuts (considered spending) have to have offsets (growth) or pay-fors, and those make for big bills. But why everything in one shot and then, have to do it again after the mid-terms?
Posted on 5/22/25 at 9:35 am to sidewalkside
How does this bill lead to an increase in the size of government?
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