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re: The Times reporting the CIA destroyed Nordstream
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:04 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:04 am to Bunk Moreland
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I was disappointed SFP fell for the CIA propaganda on this one.
No I was arguing about Germany's role more than saying we couldn't have done it.
The argument was we did this unilaterally to stop Germany from having the option of changing their mind about Russian gas. If Germany wasn't involved, then Biden is going to be in some shite, internationally. This could unwind lots of international relationships among the West (thwarting "globalism").
If Germany was involved, then, clearly, we weren't doing this to influence Germany and this was a Western, not American, op.
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Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yeah, had nothing at all to do with the USA interfering and overthrowing the Ukranian govt.
The people overthrew a Russian government controlling Ukraine. What we did was put our own puppet in his place.
Putin FAFO'd in 2014 and lost his puppet by overplaying his hand. That's not something the US can claim.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:05 am to MWP
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Nordstream sabotage would have been a perfect mission for SEALs Yep, let the CIA work up a target package and let Dev take it from there.
No. This is a mission for Navy Diving and Salvage. It's a deep sea open water dive. DEVGRU is a DA unit. This isn't in their wheelhouse.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:07 am to wileyjones
quote:Anyone who thought someone other than the US destroyed the pipeline has mental retard strength to go through those mental gymnastics.
The Times reporting the CIA destroyed Nordstream
Looking at the OT Ukraine thread posters.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 11:07 am
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Bless your ignorant heart.
You may want to google the Cassette Scandal.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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The people overthrew a Russian government controlling Ukraine. What we did was put our own puppet in his place.
You agree with me, it just requires you to use far more words.
Congrats, I guess.
This is our war. You know it, I know it, so you can stop pretending to be some unenlightened patsy.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:09 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This is our war. You know it, I know it, s
Naw. This is Putin's last gasp to keep Russian influence because he can't let Ukraine join the EU.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:09 am to Bunk Moreland
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I was disappointed SFP fell for the CIA propaganda on this one.
You’re surprised? Dude tows the line like no other these days
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:09 am to grizzlylongcut
If you want an impeachable offense, here it is. The Emergency War Powers Act does not grant the CiC the authority to unilaterally commit acts of aggression against a nation that has not acted warlike against us or an allied country of which we are treaty bound to help defend.
I know it's a quaint notion but, the Constitution requires congressional authority to wage war. Detonating a pipeline belonging to a sovereign country is an act of war - and the CIA is part of the Executive Branch.
I know it's a quaint notion but, the Constitution requires congressional authority to wage war. Detonating a pipeline belonging to a sovereign country is an act of war - and the CIA is part of the Executive Branch.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:10 am to wileyjones
The fact that this is actually being reported means the CIA/cabal WANT it to be reported. The Times is globalist as it gets.
They want tensions with Russia to continue because it benefits the cabal
Also gives them an excuse to dump Biden for a better candidate
They want tensions with Russia to continue because it benefits the cabal
Also gives them an excuse to dump Biden for a better candidate
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 11:12 am
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:11 am to SoFla Tideroller
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Detonating a pipeline belonging to a sovereign country is an act of war - and the CIA is part of the Executive Branch.
Its just a proxy war. Nothing more. USA has boots on the ground in Ukraine.
Cheerleaders "noble visions" and romantic notions of this war are hilarious.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:12 am to Cosmo
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Also gives them an excuse to dump Biden for a better candidate
A brick with googly eyes would be a better candidate than Biden.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
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The argument was we did this unilaterally to stop Germany from having the option of changing their mind about Russian gas. If Germany wasn't involved, then Biden is going to be in some shite, internationally. This could unwind lots of international relationships among the West (thwarting "globalism").
If Germany was involved, then, clearly, we weren't doing this to influence Germany and this was a Western, not American, op.
We could do this unilaterally and the Germans wouldn't do shite. We're their only national defense and their military is currently (and has been) in complete shambles.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:12 am to wileyjones
I wouldn't put it past them but I also think they wouldn't do it without Biden's approval and he seems too chickenshit to approve something like that.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:14 am to upgrayedd
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We could do this unilaterally and the Germans wouldn't do shite. We're their only national defense and their military is currently (and has been) in complete shambles.
Pretty much. And the US loves it that way as we attempt to continue to control nations in our global nannyst approach.
We've been doing this all over the globe since WWII and failed almost every fricking time.
This post was edited on 2/8/23 at 11:15 am
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:15 am to GetCocky11
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And the guy is only using an "anonymous source", which was routinely joked about on the PoliBoard during anti-Trump reporting during the Trump presidency.
And rightfully so
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:18 am to wileyjones
This is an act of war against the German people. They need to rise up and kick the USA occupying military out of their country.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:20 am to wileyjones
defund the cia.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:21 am to upgrayedd
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We could do this unilaterally and the Germans wouldn't do shite.
Extremely unlikely.
I didn't say they'd declare war on us. There would definitely be long-term trade and economic implications, though.
Posted on 2/8/23 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Extremely unlikely.
I didn't say they'd declare war on us. There would definitely be long-term trade and economic implications, though.
Them publicly recognizing/acknowledging that would never happen.
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