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Stingray
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The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
Just read in a Medscape article that the USMLE will be changed in some way. Goal is to deemphasize the score, because they believe the score isn't that important and they want the races to score the same.
More self-contradictory shite from our betters who will institute Marxism to enslave us.


udtiger
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That sound you hear is the rush of thousands of erections by malpractice lawyers.


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OleWarSkuleAlum
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re: The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
Sounds like all the D.O.s and Caribbean M.D.s are celebrating.


Strannix
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they want the races to score the same


And I want to play in the NBA


Stingray
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And I want to play in the NBA


Just strap some weights on LeBron James. Isn't there a poem that lays this out?


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Wtodd
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This will certainly help when healthcare gets nationalized


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Jorts 'R Us
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Just read in a Medscape article that the USMLE will be changed in some way.


This is just the preliminary recommendations and feedback phase, isn't it? Nothing official.

What's the gist of it? Move to pass-fail scoring? De-emphasize Step 1 scoring for residency selection?
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Centinel
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Good. Diversity is far more important than skill and knowledge when it comes to being a doctor.



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The Maj
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deemphasize the score,


Sound like they took a page from the teacher's union playbook...


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BestBanker
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Well other countries have "ok" docs. Why do we need to be the only country with excellent docs? We're being divisive. Accept mediocrity and you will be OK too.


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NC_Tigah
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re: The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
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Goal is to deemphasize the score
That is very interesting.

Medschools increasingly use pass-fail constructs with heavy emphasis on Step 1 Board (USMLE 1) prep. That trend began when class rank was deemed very important for top-residency qualification. HarvardDukeStanford-types squawked that their classes were more competitive therefore rank comparisons between their students vs State MedSchool attendees was unfair. Residencies nonetheless continued class rank emphasis. So "elite schools" ceased assigning grades or publishing class rank.

Residencies were forced to look at other comparatives. Because grades were indeterminate, residencies relied heavily on USMLE scores. Step 1 more than Step 2. Exam scores (like SAT/ACT for college entrance) provided some commonality for rating intellectual and focused learning capacity.

So we've done away with grades.
Now we're getting rid of USMLE scores? My suspicion is there will still be score-based assessment. If not though, the more opaque the information, the more it will favor Private (More expensive) MedSchools ... The Ivys, Duke, Stanford, Emory, etc.

At present an LSU 3rd-year with a great Step 1 score is treated preferentially over a Duke or Yale 3rd-yr with an average score. Take the scores away, and the same LSU applicant will be underselected for residency.


Stingray
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re: The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
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What's the gist of it?


I posted the gist, what you're looking for is the specifics.


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cajunangelle
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Sounds like all the D.O.s and Caribbean M.D.s are celebrating.
I went to a carib MD in the States before. He was not bad at all. He took cash from illegals though and didn't deal with insurance much.


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cajunangelle
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AOC, Kim Kardashian, Tammy P. Whitetrash and Chantelle will all become doctors now.


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Centinel
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re: The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
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Medschools increasingly use pass-fail constructs with heavy emphasis on Step 1 Board (USMLE 1) prep. That trend began when class rank was deemed very important for top-residency qualification. HarvardDukeStanford-types squawked that their classes were more competitive therefore rank comparisons between their students vs State MedSchool attendees was unfair. Residencies nonetheless continued class rank emphasis. So "elite schools" ceased assigning grades or publishing class rank.

Residencies were forced to look at other comparatives. Because grades were indeterminate, residencies relied heavily on USMLE scores. Step 1 more than Step 2. Exam scores (like SAT/ACT for college entrance) provided some commonality for rating intellectual and focused learning capacity.

So we've done away with grades.
Now we're getting rid of USMLE scores? My suspicion is there will still be score-based assessment. If not though, the more opaque the information, the more it will favor Private (More expensive) MedSchools ... The Ivys, Duke, Stanford, Emory, etc.

At present an LSU 3rd-year with a great Step 1 score is treated preferentially over a Duke or Yale 3rd-yr with an average score. Take the scores away, and the same LSU applicant will be underselected for residency.


All this and not a word about diversity.

You need to get your priorities straight.


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Strannix
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This will solve the doctor shortage, sorry you racists want the insurance companies to keep healthcare high so they can pad the CEO's paychecks.



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aTmTexas Dillo
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re: The Test that Grades Doctors, the Elite Wants to Nerf that Too
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Sounds like all the D.O.s and Caribbean M.D.s are celebrating.


Sounds like soft bigotry of low expectations. A friend of mine would resent this. His daughter recently receiving her D.O. is training in a General Surgery residency somewhere out west. I'm sure her healing hands will work as expertly as an M.D.


Eli Goldfinger
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D.O.s


DOs actually are required more education than MDs.


NC_Tigah
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DOs actually are required more education than MDs.
Negative.


Jorts 'R Us
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DOs actually are required more education than MDs.


What?


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