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re: The tariffs are being paid by Americans

Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:56 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68198 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:56 am to
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And buy from whom? Everyone is tariffed up in here and the US doesn’t have the manufacturing infrastructure to handle this.


The US may not be able to meet the demand of the instant gratification society we have now, but there are most certainly plenty of items for all Americans to be just fine as long as people don't hoard and panic buy stuff.

Americans don't NEED everything overnighted from Amazon.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10516 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:58 am to
I don't, unless I want to.

A sales based tax is infinitely better than one based on income. You actually have some control over what you pay.
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
1963 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 10:58 am to
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Where does your phone come from? Your furniture?



Liberty phone by purism and buy my furniture from FurnitureMadeintheUSA
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 10:59 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57817 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:03 am to
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Fox News tells a story a small business owner who used to pay $26,000 in tariffs on goods imported from China, but now faces a $346,000 tariff due to Trump’s new 104% tariff on Chinese imports.


If true, this is where the free market comes into play. Has he not tried to import from Taiwan, Korea, or Vietnam or look to American manufacturing?
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5667 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:06 am to
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So the Tariffs just went into effect and this lady is already paying this ?

bullshite - More Fear Mongering


Fair question, but I'll give you some actual context considering businesses, you know, forecast the impact of costs on their business beyond just today.

The dates are based on when the vessel or airplane departed and the when the entry was filed. It's a bit more complex, but I'll keep it simple.

Prior to 2/4, an importer from China would have paid their general duty %. Let's call it 5%. $100,000 PO she owed $5,000.

Post 2/4, they were subjected to 10% addition. So, 5% + 10% - $15,000

Post 3/4, they were subjected to another 10%.So 5% + 10% + 10% - $25,000

Post 4/9, they are subjected to 5% + 10% + 10% + 34% + 50%. - $109,000

The majority of importers are also subject to Trump's original 2018 tariffs, so that equation is more likely.

5% + 10% + 10% + 34% + 50% + 25% = 134% or $134,000 Total Duty/Tariff obligation.

Has she paid it yet, probably not, but she probably has product that's been on order for 90+ days and is ready now through the end of the month which she has no option but to take. It's either been paid for 50% or in full.

Then she has customers who she likely sold that product to, on terms, at prices she was planning on at best based on a $25,000 duty.

Hence the post about SMBs talking about firing people or considering closing shop.

If this goes on 3-6 months, most SMBs don't have the cash flow to survive and will be in dire positions.

This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 11:09 am
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:11 am to
"special needs toy importer" is this a joke?
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
9321 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:20 am to
They should tell this story
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Bikes built and manufactured in the United States are selling out. Bikes manufactured overseas are reducing their prices to stay competitive with US manufacturers.

Tariffs are definitely impacting my industry and it’s been absolutely amazing for my business. Thank you @POTUS
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55278 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:39 am to
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Man, those 104% tariffs come with some crazy math.

It doesn’t seem crazy to me. If he was paying $26k and now $346k his tariffs went up 14x. So if his tariffs were about 7%, and now they are 104%, then the math works out.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29462 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:40 am to
HOLY FREAKING shite BATMAN


Well they either compromise or we will stop buying their shite.

FOOK CHINA - their government makes democrats look good
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
9222 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:39 pm to
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The US may not be able to meet the demand of the instant gratification society we have now, but there are most certainly plenty of items for all Americans to be just fine as long as people don't hoard and panic buy stuff.

Americans don't NEED everything overnighted from Amazon.


Some of the most out of touch BS I’ve read today.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34157 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:04 pm to
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The tariffs are being paid by Americans

How am I paying tariffs for something I have no intention of purchasing?

Explain in detail
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
558 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:13 pm to
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How does a 104% tariff increase the tariffs the business pays by 13x


The tariff went up to 104%, which is presumably 13 times higher than the tariff previously on that class of goods (e.g. 8%).



Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4395 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 4:56 pm to



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The tariffs are being paid by Americans
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