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re: The shoe is dropping - ANTIFA classified as a terrorist org

Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:53 am to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22776 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:53 am to
Classified as they should be, but unless we start seeing redditors being drug out of their parents basement and Soros held in jail it’s all words again
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11553 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:58 am to
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Classified as they should be, but unless we start seeing redditors being drug out of their parents basement and Soros held in jail it’s all words again

Trump understands media better than any president. Sometimes he gets on social media and says things because it will be popular with his base or cause a controversy to keep a story in the news cycle for whatever reason. I suspect this is more of that.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15487 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:10 am to
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Antifa only exists as Fox News MAGA boogeyman.


I bet you also believe the mafia doesn’t exist because the mafia said so
Posted by Sp0728
Your head
Member since Aug 2018
2234 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:18 am to
This is what I voted for
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
16980 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:33 am to
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Antifa only exists as Fox News MAGA boogeyman. Nobody knows the leader or how to join it. If Trump stops nothing what will complain about?



You must be feeling uncomfortable being on a terrorist watch list. I get it but perhaps you should change your ways?
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
71794 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:45 am to
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Cancel everything owned by Disney. Boycott them and Paramount.


What do they have to do with this?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125582 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:51 am to
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Antifa only exists as Fox News MAGA boogeyman. Nobody knows the leader or how to join it. If Trump stops nothing what will complain about?


So there’s no chapters of Antifa?

They don’t train?

They don’t fundraise?

They don’t have conventions?

They don’t organize protests?

Those must be apparitions we keep seeing.

Get fricked.
Posted by TPAWZ
Member since Dec 2011
264 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:18 am to
Antifa = Hitler's Brown Shirts

They have done the bidding of their masters to terrorize the populace and force them to fall into line with their master's ideology.

It is just crazy that they call themselves Anti-Fascists when they are doing the exact same thing the Fascists did in Germany.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20663 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:28 am to
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The big issue I see is that antifa doesn’t really have an organizational structure.

Neither does modern AQ or many other terror groups.

They operate in cells but communicate across broader groups via various online platforms.

Now *IF* the feds want they can use all the tools we have in the toolbox to track AQ post 9/11.

It also means that anyone donating to or communicating with them digitally even in a domestic US situation is subject to surveillance by the NSA and CIA.

AQ lived in hostile nations and hid in caves resorting to human messengers because of how far the NSA was up their arse.

An organization operating in the US without human to human comm networks is completely f’ed.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11553 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:36 am to
Assuming antifa actually has terrorist cell elements, there is still a signal to noise problem. How many people are just glomming onto iconography or unwittingly taking the name at face value (being against fascism is a fairly unimpeachable opinion in a vacuum)? How many are attempting to destabilizing the United States government as an organized politically motivated criminal outfit?

My guess is the amount of noise federal investigators would face in prosecuting a campaign against antifa would be high.
Posted by Kansas City King
Columbia, MO
Member since Oct 2020
3528 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:52 am to
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Assuming antifa actually has terrorist cell elements

There’s no assuming. They do. They used Discord and other online chat rooms to communicate and plan their evil deeds. Tyler Robinson was a cell they activated to assassinate Charlie Kirk
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 6:53 am
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20663 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:55 am to
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My guess is the amount of noise federal investigators would face in prosecuting a campaign against antifa would be high.

There are plenty who are just cosplaying but that’s true in any terror organization.

With modern sigint and AI they could have a general network map and more importantly their donors very quickly. It doesn’t need to be 100% month one, the organization as a collective entity will quickly collapse under the weight of the stress and paranoia that results from the feds resources (real and imagined) leaving only isolated cells which can face federal charges when found making it impossible for local Soros prosecutors to protect them as they’ve done in blue areas in the past.

Then you end up with people flipping on each other once arrested and it comes fully unraveled from there.

It’s always been a question of will to do so rather than any real challenge as to how it would take place.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125582 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:58 am to
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there is still a signal to noise problem.


Yeah. That’s never happened with any other terror group.

In any case, this designation by Trump is largely symbolic. It gives no special investigative powers to government agencies that they did not already possess.
Posted by TheBeezer
Texas
Member since Apr 2013
1980 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:29 am to
Oh, look everybody! Another pic of FBI agent provocaturs breaking into the U.S. Capital, planting fake pipe bombs and the Capital police, media and members of Congress going along with it to create a false flag in order to persuade Americans that MAGA is a dangerous terrorist movement.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
9710 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:19 am to
In 2015, the Waco biker shoot out inspired by the FBI revealed a huge amount of tools that the feds had to collect info on The Bandidos, a very loosely affiliated group like Antifa. Collectively swept up 120 pax and held them without bond for well over a year.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:24 am to
Wait... I don't understand. How can you designate an "idea" as a terrorist organization?



Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20663 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:27 am to
Yeah and once you are designated a terror affiliated suspect you have a different judicial process.

I don’t think people understand how comprehensive our IC can be in a modern nation with AI and palantir to help collate the process.

Every phone, every computer and even smart TVs, ring cameras and Wi-Fi networks become potential tools because of the renewal of the patriot act (which I adamantly opposed renewing along with FISA).

With this ruling and those laws in place antifa is now operating inside the most robust surveillance state in human history.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:29 am to
They already have. frick em.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:29 am to
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ok where’s the Epstein files tho


That gif made me crack up laughing.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9814 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 8:30 am to
Half of those people were ANTIFA... and the other half were feds. Grow up.
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