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re: The Scientific Establishment Is Finally Starting To Take Intelligent Design Seriously

Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:33 pm to
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It also happens to be a pretty standard definition of God, or at least the God of Abraham.


Handwaving embedded in the definition is still handwaving.

Sure, it's possible that there is an intelligent being who always was, but that's breaking the rule you're demanding everything else follow and therefore not very convincing to people who don't already believe.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:36 pm to
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you are a hypocrite because atheism in itself is a faith-based religion


So do we get to count the communist regime kill count as religious deaths now? Because I'm constantly reminded by Christians that those death counts were due to atheism not religion.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Not breathing through the same hole you eat and drink from is a no brainer.


Do you know how the human body works?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79425 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:38 pm to
It’s dismissed because it’s almost impossible to test or prove and thus completely outside the scientific process.

I believe In G-d and so in a way I believe In intelligent design, but it’s just not a scientific belief. I believe G-d set forward natural processes that follow his laws and we should keep trying to understand them.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:41 pm to
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I don't believe humans evolved from apes.
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Then what common ancestral line do you think we evolved from?

Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:45 pm to
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theunknownknight


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Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 12:59 pm to
The fact that 'science' takes what Darwin saw on an isolated island with no control so seriously is an indictment on the scientific process and they insist on it because when you get them to the point of creation, their science breaks down. It's not that complicated, we live in a universe that devolves into chaos and decay and does move towards complexity and increasingly intelligent life on it's own. End of story.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:02 pm to
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The fact that 'science' takes what Darwin saw on an isolated island with no control so seriously is an indictment on the scientific process


The fact that that's what you think modern evolutionary theory contains is pretty embarrassing for you.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:05 pm to
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modern evolutionary theory


Where does 'modern' evolutionary theory begin ?

What you are saying is that a theory with an inherent flaw in it's design has been somehow corrected ?
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28024 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Where does 'modern' evolutionary theory begin ?


Certainly past Darwin's contribution, which was his point.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35908 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:08 pm to
Who created God?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28024 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:12 pm to
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Who created God?


Yea... That rule I demanded you follow, I'm going to break it now.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9355 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:19 pm to
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The fact that 'science' takes what Darwin saw on an isolated island with no control so seriously is an indictment on the scientific process and they insist on it because when you get them to the point of creation, their science breaks down. It's not that complicated, we live in a universe that devolves into chaos and decay and does move towards complexity and increasingly intelligent life on it's own. End of story.


Do you realize how many advances we've made due to the study evolutionary biology? So we should just stop studying it in your opinion? Also classical physics "breaks down" when we get to the quantum level...does that mean we should just throw out everything we've learned?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:26 pm to
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That rule I demanded you follow, I'm going to break it now.


Theists didn't come up with causation. If you want to toss it, fine. Just admit that's what you're doing.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2790 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Then what common ancestral line do you think we evolved from?


Adam and Eve.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:28 pm to
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So you don't believe in evolution?


That's a pointless question without defining the terms.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28024 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:30 pm to
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Theists didn't come up with causation. If you want to toss it, fine. Just admit that's what you're doing.


I'm perfectly fine with admitting that I don't know. Your ilk are the sort who shoves God into any gap in human knowledge.
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:32 pm to
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You're ilk


Your.

You're simply incapable of discussing this topic without it devolving, so I'll leave you to it.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm perfectly fine with admitting that I don't know. Your ilk are the sort who shoves God into any gap in human knowledge.
Thunder gods, and rain gods and nymphs ... oh, my!
This post was edited on 5/19/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28024 posts
Posted on 5/19/22 at 1:34 pm to
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You're simply incapable of discussing this topic without it devolving,


You just accused me of being dishonest with that "just admit it" comment. GFY.
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