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The Roy Moore Dilemma
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:01 pm
As someone with no loyalty to any political party, I have a hard time understanding the logic used by some to be completely convinced Roy Moore is innocent. Sure, I think there's a chance he's done little wrong, but considering the information available, I would bet he's guilty if my life depended on being right. Is there anyone who would bet he's innocent if their life depended on being right? If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
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Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:02 pm to PointsInCase
Yes, the other guy votes with the communist anti-Americans (DEMS).
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:02 pm to PointsInCase
Roy Moore was forcibly removed from office TWICE by the feds for trying to force his religious beliefs on the rest of us. That's reason enough not to vote for the clown.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:03 pm to PointsInCase
quote:
As someone with no loyalty to any political party, I have a hard time understanding the logic used by some to be completely convinced Roy Moore is innocent. Sure, I think there's a chance he's done little wrong, but considering the information available, I would bet he's guilty if my life depended on being right. Is there anyone who would bet he's innocent if their life depended on being right? If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
So basically: You have a hard time believing people think he can be innocent because there’s no evidence of him being guilty?
Am I getting this right?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:03 pm to PointsInCase
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If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
There are far more reasons to not vote for Roy Moore than unproven accusations from 30 years ago.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:03 pm to PointsInCase
I think people don’t really care that much because it’s so obvious that this is a political takedown to try and steal a seat and nothing more. Nobody knows if he did it or not
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:07 pm to PointsInCase
Will Doug Jones vote the way I want him to?
No.
Will Roy Moore?
More than likely.
I don’t believe the allegations. Sorry, I don’t just follow the un-American notion that allegations=guilt. I also think it’s dangerous (and stupid) to simply “believe women” without something more substantial than muh feels.
No.
Will Roy Moore?
More than likely.
I don’t believe the allegations. Sorry, I don’t just follow the un-American notion that allegations=guilt. I also think it’s dangerous (and stupid) to simply “believe women” without something more substantial than muh feels.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:08 pm to PointsInCase
Do you advocate killing babies the day before their birthday?
Jones does.
It really is that simple.
Jones does.
It really is that simple.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:09 pm to PointsInCase
The problem is the allegations can never be proven. There's no way to know if he's 100% quilty or innocent.
The choice the voters have to make can only be made with the information on hand: Allegations have been made, they have been vehemently denied.
I'd say I'm 50/50. My vote will be more against Jones than for Moore.
The choice the voters have to make can only be made with the information on hand: Allegations have been made, they have been vehemently denied.
I'd say I'm 50/50. My vote will be more against Jones than for Moore.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:10 pm to PointsInCase
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I would bet he's guilty if my life depended on being right. Is there anyone who would bet he's innocent if their life depended on being right?
What wrong choices have YOU made such that your life depends upon being right about a 40 y/o claim against an Alabama Senate candidate?
JEEBUS!!!
Re-evaluate and take a different path!
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If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
Hell, I'd vote for him BECAUSE I feel queasy "morally" about him. Fed Gov deserves to have that foisted upon them.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:10 pm to PointsInCase
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I would bet he's guilty if my life depended on being right. Is there anyone who would bet he's innocent if their life depended on being right? If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
WTF is this ignorant shite?
My life doesn't depend on it and never will. This isn't even good bait.
Moore for Senate!
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:11 pm to PointsInCase
The more (Moore?) fundamental dilemma is whether to vote for someone you consider to be a bad person or someone you think will vote on legislation in a manner that you oppose. for many, it may well be that Moore is as bad as alleged but they think (for example) that his confirming votes on conservative nominees is of overriding importance. Democrats face the dilemma, too, at times. I don't think many would seriously argue that Bill Clinton was a better person that GHWB or Bob Dole but many voted for him anyway.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:13 pm to PointsInCase
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If you're 50/50, can you justify voting for him from a moral standpoint?
Yes I can. We are talking about unsubstantiated/unproven accusations that supposedly happened 30 or 40 years ago. I can't know if he is guilty or not. What I do know for certain is the person running against him is a far left socialist that will vote against most everything that I believe is right for this country. I would have a far larger moral issue voting for a 100% known leftist than I would for a 100% unknown accused child molester.
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:13 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Roy Moore was forcibly removed from office TWICE by the feds for trying to force his religious beliefs on the rest of us.
And the people of Alabama put him back in twice. RM represents the majority of Alabamans. Even after all the BS he will be elected by Alabamans to represent them in the Senate.
If you hate that so much, move to Bama and register to vote against him.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:14 pm to Salmon
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There are far more reasons to not vote for Roy Moore than unproven accusations from 30 years ago.
This
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:15 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Roy Moore was forcibly removed from office TWICE by the feds for trying to force his religious beliefs on the rest of us. That's reason enough not to vote for the clown.
But forcing ACA on people is fine and dandy... got it.
And he represents the people of Alabama. If they elect him, deal with it.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:15 pm to PointsInCase
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PointsInCase
After seeing the 14 yr old girls timeline destroyed by official court records, the yearbook exposed as fake, the Gadsden Mall denying the ban - Its fake news.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:17 pm to PointsInCase
Given that I STRONGLY believe the entire DNC is perverse, corrupt, lying... and as we damn-well know without a doubt has been working tirelessly to politicize the FBI and the DOJ (let THAT put a chill down your spine!!!), with activist judges that only see their political perspective and push the Constitution aside...
... then I AM ABSOLUTELY CHOOSING THE LESSOR MORAL EVIL. Moore may have broken the law with specific individuals, but Jones represents the perverting, the corrupting, the subversion of our entire country for generations to come.
Let me turn the table on you, knowing what we now know of Hillary Clinton's kickback on Uranium One, the fake dossier to get a FISA warrant to TAP THE LINES OF A POLITICAL OPPONENT, the Clinton tarmac meeting, Comey not interviewing her prior to his exoneration of her... CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY OUR COUNTRY WOULD HAVE SURVIVED A HRC PRESIDENCY?!?
I WOULD VOTE FOR ROY MOORE TODAY, TOMORROW, AND TWICE ON SATURDAY TO KEEP ANY AND ALL PROGRESSIVE FILTH FROM THE REIGNS OF POWER.
Did I answer your question?
... then I AM ABSOLUTELY CHOOSING THE LESSOR MORAL EVIL. Moore may have broken the law with specific individuals, but Jones represents the perverting, the corrupting, the subversion of our entire country for generations to come.
Let me turn the table on you, knowing what we now know of Hillary Clinton's kickback on Uranium One, the fake dossier to get a FISA warrant to TAP THE LINES OF A POLITICAL OPPONENT, the Clinton tarmac meeting, Comey not interviewing her prior to his exoneration of her... CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY OUR COUNTRY WOULD HAVE SURVIVED A HRC PRESIDENCY?!?
I WOULD VOTE FOR ROY MOORE TODAY, TOMORROW, AND TWICE ON SATURDAY TO KEEP ANY AND ALL PROGRESSIVE FILTH FROM THE REIGNS OF POWER.
Did I answer your question?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:18 pm to PointsInCase
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I have a hard time understanding the logic used by some to be completely convinced Roy Moore is innocent
I understand your position, but it's not about being innocent or guilty. It's about what facts have been presented and if your go-to "gotcha" is some subpar forgery and allegations from Lincoln era, then yea, it's pretty easy to equate this to being politically motivated.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 3:18 pm to bamarep
Lolololololololol his stance on abortion is as follows:
Eta: he supports a scouts decision and one that Republican Congress hasn’t done shite about overturning
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Those comments, everybody wants to attack you so they are going to make out on those comments what they want to their political advantage," Jones said. "To be clear, I fully support a woman's freedom to choose to what happens to her own body. That is an intensely, intensely personal decision that only she, in consultation with her god, her doctor, her partner or family, that's her choice. "Having said that, the law for decades has been that late-term procedures are generally restricted except in the case of medical necessity. That's what I support. I don't see any changes in that. It is a personal decision."
Eta: he supports a scouts decision and one that Republican Congress hasn’t done shite about overturning
This post was edited on 12/5/17 at 3:28 pm
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