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The reviews of Chernobyl are telling of our current politics

Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:15 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131611 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:15 pm
I just watched the first episode. Great looking show.

In the early hours of the disaster the Soviets minimize the danger and do everything they can to protect the State from criticism.

I found it to be a criticism of Soviet Russia which valued the State above the individual.

Well nope, some dipshit from The Atlantic says it is a comment on global warming deniers who are killing millions by denying science.

How he came to that conclusion is beyond me.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74218 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:17 pm to
The ussr is responsible for the 2 worst environmental disasters in world history

Chernobyl

Literally destroying the Aral Sea
Posted by dr smartass phd
RIP 8/19
Member since Sep 2004
20387 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:17 pm to
And that is the kind of decision making the progs in this country want. Exactly, what the old man said.

Posted by GumpInLex
Lexington, KY
Member since Nov 2011
1631 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:18 pm to
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How he came to that conclusion is beyond me.



One word... C U N T
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86175 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:20 pm to
I think it’s more about how white people are inherently evil . Like when they caused global warming which caused the earthquake which caused Fukushima.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:21 pm to
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How he came to that conclusion is beyond me


Their mind was made up before they even watched.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
14827 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:23 pm to
I enjoyed it. I didn’t get any hint at a secret global warming message, but it doesn’t paint socialism in a good light.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131611 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:28 pm to
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I didn’t get any hint at a secret global warming message, but it doesn’t paint socialism in a good light.


Exactly.

However the Socialists cant see the point even when its in the form of a radioactive 2 x 4 hitting them.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 10:37 pm to
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Well nope, some dip shite from The Atlantic says it is a comment on global warming deniers who are killing millions by denying science.
quote:

How he came to that conclusion is beyond me.
Can you link the article to see the ridiculousness of it, and maybe someone can understand some sort of rationale for his conclusion, even if it’s ridiculous?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82442 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 3:06 am to
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Literally destroying the Aral Sea



I've always thought that ships in the desert was such a bizarre sight.





Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11399 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:01 am to
Haven't watched the show, but hopefully, they talk about the Chernobyl divers.

quote:

The divers of the Chernobyl disaster risked their lives to extreme levels of radiation exposure in order to save the lives of thousands, But they wanted to avoid the unimaginable damages that could have impacted or destroyed parts of Europe and possibly other countries or the world. They essentially chose to give up their lives for there own core values.

Three volunteers, equipped only in diving suits and with a faulty lamp, took the job of opening the pool gates upon themselves. Two of the divers where Chernobyl engineers, Alexi Ananeko and Valeri Bezpalov, who knew where the valves to open the gate where located. The third man was named Boris Baranov who went with them to provide them with light from an underwater lamp which later failed. The failure of the lamp caused the two engineers to find the valves by feeling their way to them in the darkness. Luckily the two engineers were able to find and open the valves and all three men returned to the surface. Unfortunately after their exposure to the radiation, all three men suffered from radiation sickness and later died.


Brave and honorable heroes. Same as the retired engineers of Fukushima that volunteered to protect the younger people.

LINK
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:05 am to
quote:

The ussr is responsible for the 2 worst environmental disasters in world history

Chernobyl

Literally destroying the Aral Sea

Pretty bad, but Fukushima and it's contamination of the Pacific Ocean is arguably worse.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477251 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:26 am to
i haven't seen the show yet, but on NPR yesterday their meme was "this is a story about a government that doesn't care about facts" and what it says about the Trump admin
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21635 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 7:30 am to
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Chernobyl divers.


I can't give the memory and the courage of those 3 gentlemen enough respect. They took on a suicide mission.
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1494 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:17 am to
If you want to know more about Chernobyl and nuclear accidents in general, read this fascinating book:

Atomic Accidents: A History of Nuclear Meltdowns and Disasters: From the Ozark Mountains to Fukushima

Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:19 am to
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I found it to be a criticism of Soviet Russia which valued the State above the individual.




hmm, kinda like slow rolling info release when there's a mass shooting
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63430 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:31 am to
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I found it to be a criticism of Soviet Russia which valued the State above the individual.


The State, Party, and Bureaucracy trumped the individual in Soviet Russia. Party before people, not unlike the American Democrat Party.

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Well nope, some dip shite from The Atlantic says it is a comment on global warming deniers who are killing millions by denying science.


Did he draw this conclusion with a crayon?

quote:

How he came to that conclusion is beyond me.


He's insane.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:33 am
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
55351 posts
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:37 am to
quote:

In the early hours of the disaster the Soviets minimize the danger and do everything they can to protect the State from criticism. I found it to be a criticism of Soviet Russia which valued the State above the individual.


I'm beginning to see the outlines of exactly this paradigm right here in the USA, when it comes to the Democratic Party's way of governing. Of course, when they are out of power, they act as though a foreign adversary has conquered the USA and they must defeat the adversary by any means necessary -- sort of like how the Soviets viewed the Nazi invader.

Fascinating.

The USA is well on this path.
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