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re: The return of manufacturing through tariffs is fantasy

Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
24896 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:50 am to
In trips to Korea, Japan and China over the last few years, one thing I noticed is that there were no empty or shutdown factories.

My sister-in-law bought me a Phillips electric razor in Korea while she was there. It cost her $150. It sells on Amazon here for about half that price.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20509 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:51 am to
I’ve recently been down this rabbit hole while reading up on high speed rail. One of the biggest factors when determining where to build a new manufacturing plant is what is known as time to port. In a nutshell, how long does it take my goods to leave my facility and end up on a cargo ship out of the country. Right now, it can take 2 to 3 days and maybe even longer. The same constraints exist when bringing goods inland as well..

There are currently 5 major ports in the gulf and 2 others on the east coast that are vital to our import and export of goods and none of them are linked in such a way that can compete with the speed at which China, Japan and the EU can.. The southern United States sits on a massive, untapped economic engine that could rival China and the EU and no body even realizes it.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41651 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:51 am to
No it isn't.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:52 am to
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No it isn't.


The old moving goalpost is in full gallop mode right now.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35450 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:54 am to
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Since when? The entire MAGA reasoning for tariffs was to return mfg to the States.


You just make shite up.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41651 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:54 am to
You window licking fricktard, tariffs aren't JUST for the steel industry.

Post less.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2807 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:54 am to
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link?
You can't use the Great Google? Foreign Investments in America
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6507 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 11:55 am to
Biden never cut the last tarrifs. Democrats wont let go of a buck if they launder it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:00 pm to
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You just make shite up.


You'be been unconscious the past 10 years.

What the hell do you think he's doing with these tariffs? If they dont return mfg, what purpose do they serve?



Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12719 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:21 pm to
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The return of manufacturing through tariffs is fantasy


Then why do other countries do it to protect their manufacturing base? Clinton sold out American workers in return for cheap shite.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35929 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:30 pm to
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The world has invested like 6 trillion since trump took office.


I don't even know what this is supposed to mean honestly. Companies are always doing this, so how in the world can you attribute it to tariffs?




Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18455 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 12:31 pm to
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That's the rub. As soon as the Left regains power, every economic policy this administration has pursued will be abandoned.


When it works, if, thats if, they get back in power they will just take credit for the booming economy.

Im a huge Reagan fan. He took over and the economy was shat. However, one of the things Carter had done in desperation was to put Volcker in charge of the Fed.

When Reagan got in office a few confidants pulled him aside and said "Boss I think this Volckers' policies are starting to sprout some green shoots". Reagan left the policies in place, along with Volcker.....then announced it as Reaganomics!
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
8858 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:25 pm to
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I just don't get the endgame here
Saving this country is the endgame. Cannot survive as a retail / government driven economy. A country that doesn’t produce as much, as a whole, as much as it consumes in monetary value is doomed to be a shithole. The degradation that has occurred since the 90’s should be proof enough
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21008 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Why pretend


Why pretend you can predict the future?
Why pretend that we should believe your opinion?
Eat a dick..... your mouth would be put to better use. IMHO
This post was edited on 11/18/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 2:49 pm to
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You can't use the Great Google? Foreign Investments in America
Well, I can certainly click on your link, which pertains to 2024...BEFORE Trump was in office.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2807 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Well, I can certainly click on your link, which pertains to 2024...BEFORE Trump was in office.
That's not what it shows when I click on the link.

Try this one. Investment under Trump V2.0

Or this one. From Whitehouse dot gov
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Try this one. Investment under Trump V2.0
nope

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Or this one. From Whitehouse dot gov
Yes, it details a theoretical $550B series of deals from Japan. They haven't happened yet - like the vast majority (if not all) of the claimed investments that are theoretically on the come. And if the tariffs get voided, seems likely they definitely won't happen.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
2807 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 3:52 pm to
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Big Scrub TX
So no matter what, you're going to deny and deflect. Got it. Doesn't change the fact the I'm still not tired of winning yet.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38231 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:12 pm to
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So no matter what, you're going to deny and deflect.
What? Your links are not in support of your claims. There has not been "$6 Trillion of investments" due to tariffs. There's been promises for a lot and barely any made...with the real risk of this entire tariff thing unwinding anyway.

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Doesn't change the fact the I'm still not tired of winning yet.
Winning = countries saying things without actually doing them? Weird.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7706 posts
Posted on 11/18/25 at 4:13 pm to
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Why pretend?


What keen analysis?

Then replace the plan with something else or shut the frick up.
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