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re: The reason why so many of our values and traditions are being systematically erased:

Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:55 am to
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41444 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:55 am to
Clinging to guns and religion.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:56 am to
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We just spent a couple of trillion and a generation of military because 9-11. 
No infrastructure. 
No free trade school 
But sure, go to war with no intention to leave. Iran was to be the keystone of the Anglo American takeover of the entire middle east. Cheney said. And McCain.


I believe the same thing. Why is it that the "conservatives" on here are okay with spending billions fighting and managing countries that (by their very nature) are always going dislike our government.

Meanwhile, we wont invest in our states' infrastructure. We wont invest in free 2 year programs that will obviously be a boost to our economy and potentially defeat the bloated university scam and leftist strongholds (surprised nobody thinks about that).

It's as if they dont really care about the wellbeing of their citizens.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:03 am to
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Y'all's traditions and values are being erased?


Traditions and values are inherently somewhat fragile, as to survive they require the cooperation of people, and people can be manipulated and influenced by all manner of things.
You could consider it healthy competition when an in-group influence goes against traditional values and causes change.

Our Western traditions and values, by contrast to that, have been under constant attack and assault for centuries by an out-group that is more cunning than us, controls our wealth, and doesn’t have our best interests in mind.

It’s a civilizational crisis that won’t be easily solved.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:05 am to
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no one defended the quote.






I do. Most of it.
Religion is low hanging fruit.
Ours is truth. Yours is satanic.





Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17061 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:05 am to
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Y'all's traditions and values are being erased? Bummer. I guess they weren't very durable if all it takes is a UN health bureaucrat to erase them.


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religious dogmas My religion is the one true faith and yours is of the devil. You see TD posters make that claim for their beliefs. Patriotism. Worst case was the Germans. Aryan christians good, Slavs and Jews and commies bad. By patriotism you are led by the nose. Usa #1. We just spent a couple of trillion and a generation of military because 9-11. No infrastructure. No free trade school But sure, go to war with no intention to leave. Iran was to be the keystone of the Anglo American takeover of the entire middle east. Cheney said. And McCain.


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not-two = peace Works 100% of the time. The opposite is idi amin. Petty dictators. Wars of conquest for resources. Trade wars. Destruction of natural resources.

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:05 am to
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nuclear family, religion (specifically Judeo Christian faiths), and the concept of American individualism

Those aren't MY values and traditions.

I value extended family and teamwork.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17061 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:06 am to
Yes I do.... lol
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85327 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:07 am to
Traditions, principles, ideals and Institutions.
All must be replaced.
FORWARD !
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17061 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:09 am to
I have never supported our country placing our men and women in danger for the sake of helping countries that have never sought out what is best for our nation.
We could invest in our infrastructure, but we have too many wasteful government assistance programs that enable the lazy to be lazy.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:13 am to
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quote:
Y'all's traditions and values are being erased? Bummer. I guess they weren't very durable if all it takes is a UN health bureaucrat to erase them.




He's mocking your fear mongering, not agreeing with the quote.

quote:

quote:
religious dogmas My religion is the one true faith and yours is of the devil. You see TD posters make that claim for their beliefs. Patriotism. Worst case was the Germans. Aryan christians good, Slavs and Jews and commies bad. By patriotism you are led by the nose. Usa #1. We just spent a couple of trillion and a generation of military because 9-11. No infrastructure. No free trade school But sure, go to war with no intention to leave. Iran was to be the keystone of the Anglo American takeover of the entire middle east. Cheney said. And McCain.


quote:
not-two = peace Works 100% of the time. The opposite is idi amin. Petty dictators. Wars of conquest for resources. Trade wars. Destruction of natural resources.





Great, you got otto quoted twice... so 1 moron no one takes seriously.

You didn't know that quote was fake.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:15 am to
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Why is it that the "conservatives" on here are okay with spending billions fighting and managing countries that (by their very nature) are always going dislike our government.

Because conservatives want to be patriotic and it blinds us to the lies.

quote:

Meanwhile, we wont invest in our states' infrastructure. We wont invest in free 2 year programs that will obviously be a boost to our economy and potentially defeat the bloated university scam and leftist strongholds (surprised nobody thinks about that).


If you look critically both at what we do and what we won’t do, no matter which side seemingly holds the power, you have to start to question who really wields the power.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17061 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:23 am to
Well he and others blindly defended the destruction of our values. No one even listed the values, it simply said values being destructed. And this fake action was blindly defended. If your only attack on me is that I didn’t know it was fake, then you admittedly have nothing.
Posted by Sapere
Member since Feb 2015
58 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:23 am to
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I do. Most of it.
Religion is low hanging fruit.
Ours is truth. Yours is satanic.


Are you saying the view "Ours is the truth. Yours is satanic" is a bad viewpoint and that your own is the true viewpoint?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46105 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:23 am to
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Those aren't MY values and traditions.

I value extended family and teamwork.


No one is talking about your twisted values, freak. The subject is traditionally American values that are being devalued, or in some cases erased.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:29 am to
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your twisted values

I'm sorry you think extended families and teamwork are twisted. No wonder this country's going down the shitter.

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traditionally American values

The "nuclear family" isn't a traditional American value.

For most of our history, extended families lived together.

Besides which, if your traditions and values are so weak as to be effected by a troll job, you need stronger traditions and values.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16686 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:31 am to
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Brock Adams: Director UN health organization:

“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.”





He should start in the middle east. If those people will stop:
quote:

loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas

he might get somewhere.

But those people are only loyal to their neighbors or tribe. And does this dude not know that it is politically incorrect to expect Muslims to give up their religious dogmas.




Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46105 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:37 am to
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The "nuclear family" isn't a traditional American value.


Take a breather, prog.

You are barking at the moon.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:39 am to
I view things as they are, without regard to place or person; my country is the world, and my religion is to do good.

Thomas Paine the GOAT founding father
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 11:40 am
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53564 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:42 am to
Shut up, Otto.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44257 posts
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:45 am to
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The "nuclear family" isn't a traditional American value.

For most of our history, extended families lived together.


I wouldn't call either nuclear or extended families a "value." Extended families generally were an economic necessity that went away with the quick rise in affluence and mobility for most of the country post-WWII, leading to the prevalence of nuclear families. This included minority families.

The value as I see it is the importance of a two-parent, stable household in which to raise children.

And unfortunately for all involved, this has certainly been under attack since...oh...1964.

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