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The Police State marches on: More police departments encrypting radio transmissions

Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:36 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:36 am
So the public and media can’t hear them.

You can trust the police. No reason to be concerned that they want to operate in secrecy.

Erie is one such example:

quote:

The county’s $26.5 million Next Generation Public Safety Radio System will keep the public and press from hearing scanner traffic of law enforcement agencies. Erie County’s $26.5 million, taxpayer-funded public safety radio project will go live in coming months. When it does, portions of the new system will also go silent for the public and the news media.


By all means keep ‘backing the blue’
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 11:09 am
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:37 am to
I can understand this during an active situation where scanners could jeopardize lives.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:39 am to
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I can understand this during an active situation where scanners could jeopardize lives.



Can you give an example of this?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:39 am to
Back the blue brother! Hell yeah!
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:40 am to
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Can you give an example of this?


Hostage situation where the hostage taker is monitoring police communications on a scanner.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Can you give an example of this?


Hostage situation where the hostage taker is monitoring police communications on a scanner.


Anyone with two brain cells to rub together shouldn't need this to be explained to them.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Hostage situation where the hostage taker is monitoring police communications on a scanner.



Sooo.....in a Hollywood movie. Like Die Hard or something.

Okay...in movies, I will be okay with police scrambled communications

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Can you give an example of this?

"Active hostage situation. We have snipers on the roofs of the Academy Sports store across the street and on the left side of Krispy Kreme. SWAT team will scale the west side of the bank and enter through the ceiling on the second floor. Keep him busy with the negotiator until we are ready to make a move."
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
14865 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:44 am to
Cool. GEAUX TIGERS!
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together shouldn't need this to be explained to them.



Well, I was the one that asked. So, it is an obvious single brain cell situation

Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:44 am to
Even worse to me: Barr was just asked today about the hold up of Federal Grants to LOCAL police depts nationwide.

Why am I paying taxes to prop up local PD in, oh, Albuquerque? Omaha? Van Nuys? Pensacola? Oshkosh? Chicago? NYC? I've never set foot in those places and have no desire or foresee ever having any reason to ever be remotely near those places.

Wealth redistribution. Another example of can't support themselves so make others support them.

(BTW his answer was liberal judges issuing nationwide moratoriums holding up the whole process...not what the Resist! Dems wanted to hear. )
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5702 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:44 am to
It’s still being recorded and can be produced for evidence if needed. Why should the public be immediately privy to the personal information being transmitted about persons during investigations or to the movement of personnel while seeking dangerous criminals and such?
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Sooo.....in a Hollywood movie. Like Die Hard or something. 

Are you suggesting that hostage situations don't occur in real life? Or that confirmation that the perpetrator is actively monitoring the radio must be established before locking down the channel?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89480 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:46 am to
So, you're going to tell me that, in the future, we're not going to be able to check the mics on the OT during a breaking news event?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:47 am to
quote:

It’s still being recorded and can be produced for evidence if needed. Why should the public be immediately privy to the personal information being transmitted about persons during investigations or to the movement of personnel while seeking dangerous criminals and such?



Because the public is funding the entire thing and law enforcement has the highest burden of transparency of all.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:49 am to
quote:

Sooo.....in a Hollywood movie. Like Die Hard or something.




Nooo...in real life.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Are you suggesting that hostage situations don't occur in real life? Or that confirmation that the perpetrator is actively monitoring the radio must be established before locking down the channel?



I'm suggesting that these almost never occur. Perhaps NEVER (where the hostage taker brings a scanner with and uses it to keep up with what the police are plotting as a response).


It is a goofy as taking off our shoes at TSA lines. MORE goofy.


This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:52 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5702 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Because the public is funding the entire thing and law enforcement has the highest burden of transparency of all.


Because a government agency is publicly funded, you should be entitled to immediate information about its activities and the personal information of every citizen having contact with that agency just because you want to listen in?

Do you think you’re entitled to all the information every IRS agent is receiving in the course of his investigations? Military movements? Where does this argument end?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:51 am to
One example doesn't really help your case


Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Because the public is funding the entire thing and law enforcement has the highest burden of transparency of all.


Yeah, well, that would include the FBI and DHS dealing with active terror investigations, now wouldn't it?
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