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re: The only proof anyone needs re: election fraud is that nobody can prove there wasn’t any.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:14 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:14 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Not like we need to prove a negative when you can't even begin to prove the positive.
The dems have eliminated all controls over the election process. Can you name one control in place to mitigate fraud? Until you can demonstrate that you care at all about fraud, I will assume there is fraud.
The clowns that you vote for have encouraged and allowed people to show up to drop points with literal sacks of populated ballots. There is no way to know where those ballots have been. None.
I’m so sick of reading idiots suggesting they need such high levels of proof to believe there is fraud, when they have created an environment that essentially allows it without being detected. That is, you don’t give a shite that there is fraud, you wanted it this way, so stop pretending as if any proof is going on to change your mind.
Imagine the type of hellhole we would live in if you held the standard for intellectual dishonesty.
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:15 pm to ezride25
That's not how proof works in the real world.
You don't claim some crazy shite and then tell people to prove it wrong, knowing they can't because you just made up some crazy shite.
Not even Trump believes the election was stolen from him, which has become very clear over the last 3 years
You don't claim some crazy shite and then tell people to prove it wrong, knowing they can't because you just made up some crazy shite.
Not even Trump believes the election was stolen from him, which has become very clear over the last 3 years
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:19 pm to TrueTiger
quote:Well put!
Elections without transparency deserve the full presumption of fraud.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:23 pm to ezride25
Exactly...the Letter of the Law...guilty until proven otherwise.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:26 pm to ezride25
It wasn't a water pipe bursting that caused them to stop counting, a urinal overflowed.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:30 pm to ezride25
quote:
fricking no it’s not.
1. care to share Trumps Monday presentation?
2. no? then its time you come to grips with trump not presenting Monday.
hes unable to put on a public show uninterrupted, with no Gov Christie or AG barr critique.
youve got nothing left to hold onto.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:31 pm to SalE
Election systems are not people. The standard for assessing risk in systems is to analyze where fraud could take place, and then make a judgement on if the controls in place are enough to prevent the results to be misstated.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:32 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
nobody can prove there wasn’t any
Not like we need to prove a negative when you can't even begin to prove the positive.
op is a logical fallacy.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:32 pm to HVAU
quote:
Scrutinizing the results of an election is not the same thing as conspiring to place false electors, pressuring election officials to “find” votes, leaning on the Vice President to go against his constitutional duty,
So - what were the DEM representatives in 2016 doing who objected to seating the GOP electors because of "voter suppression" in THOSE states.
what trial proved any 'voter suppression" THAT case??? Were those representatives committing treason?? ==> btw - that happens EVERY time a DEM loses an election - EVERY TIME!!!
There is a constitutional process for airing out that - and that is what the GOP was trying to do ---- HOWEVER - there was this little to-do going on on the steps of the capitol at the VERY MOMENT those arguments were going to be made in the CONGRESS - and lo and behold, the SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE - declared an EMERGENCY - and initiated a CONTINGENCY provision to SKIP THE CHALLENGE and go DIRECTLY to the final COUNT.
SO - the INSURRECTIONISTs were very instrumental in SUBVERTING THE CONSTITUTION - they prevented the CHALLENGE from taking place.
how 'fortunate' - those wascally insurrectionists played right into Pelosi's hand
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:32 pm to ezride25
quote:
81 million” “Most secure election in history!” “Not widespread” and “It’s time to move on”
Bro you forgot the main go to…
“The Big Lie”
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:33 pm to saint tiger225
quote:
That's not how proof works in the real world. You don't claim some crazy shite and then tell people to prove it wrong, knowing they can't because you just made up some crazy shite.
Do you think any area of our election system is susceptible to fraud? If so, what controls are in place to prevent it?
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:35 pm to LSUbest
quote:
urinal overflowed
Very rare "act of God" - that NEVER happens in real life.
Last time was when the dinosaurs went extinct.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:36 pm to ezride25
If you don't have transparent elections, you have fraudulent elections.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:40 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:
what trial proved any 'voter suppression" THAT case??? Were those representatives committing treason?? ==> btw - that happens EVERY time a DEM loses an election - EVERY TIME!!!
they storm the capital building
oh wait
they obsessively run the same candidate again
oh wait
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:44 pm to ezride25
How does the OP get around and make sense of the real world?
Sounds like a fascinating psychological study.
Sounds like a fascinating psychological study.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 4:45 pm to ezride25
Ronbots and DNC voters believe the 2020 and 2022 elections were totally legit. 
Posted on 8/18/23 at 5:29 pm to OceanMan
quote:
you think any area of our election system is susceptible to fraud? If so, what controls are in place to prevent it?
paper ballots is the only correct answer. ink finger.
little pin. i voted.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 5:36 pm to ezride25
My whole problem with “election fraud” is that voters shouldn’t have to prove fraud - it’s that the government needs to show that the reported result is accurate and compliant with the law.
I don’t believe shite that the government says, and “trust me” is not proof that the election result was accurate or procedure was lawful and followed.
I don’t believe shite that the government says, and “trust me” is not proof that the election result was accurate or procedure was lawful and followed.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 5:41 pm to Wednesday
That's why I say there should be a presumption of fraud if the system is not transparent or auditable.
That way you can eliminate the presumption by having a very secure system.
If systems like that were in place you would never see a riot or January 6th type event again. All of the results would be accepted.
Posted on 8/18/23 at 6:11 pm to TrueTiger
To me,it’s common sense to suppose that if the election wasn’t stolen the party that”won” would have been more than happy to roll out the proof that the election was legit.
Then the one’s alleging the election was stolen would be looking foolish.
But that’s not what was done,Dem’s fought tooth and toenail to stop any examination of the election results.
Anyone with half a brain knows it was stolen.
Then the one’s alleging the election was stolen would be looking foolish.
But that’s not what was done,Dem’s fought tooth and toenail to stop any examination of the election results.
Anyone with half a brain knows it was stolen.
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