re: The only group that still believes in the elite universities....

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Alabama actually has more national merit scholars than Rice because they give large merit scholarships to those students. Rice doesn’t give a shite.

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You can't possibly be arguing that Alabama gives students a better education than Rice

And I'm not defending Rice I stated so and say again the whole process for selecting students too many ChiComs,the culture on campus, the vibe. it's all changed and none of it for the better

But I think that's the same for every major university in the past 40 years Some have become more liberal or unhinged than others but all of them have gotten more liberal and unhinged

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Some have become more liberal or unhinged than others but all of them have gotten more liberal and unhinged

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Some of it is liberal and unhinged, some of it is the explosion of "school rankings". Schools just chase the metrics now that will move them up the list instead of concentrating on excellence.

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no it's not

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Think of it this way…there are far fewer people capable of graduating with a 4.0 ChemE degree than those who could carry that GPA in Poly Sci at Harvard…sorry you have a Poly Sci degree and aren’t a real problem solver

So no one suggests that my criticism is blind



According to Rice University’s demographics webpage, based on federal definitions, 34% of students enrolled in the university are Asian American, while 30% are white, 19% are Hispanic and 7% are Black.


the true demographics of Texas which as stated in the Charter were the intended recipients

Hispanic or Latino: 40.2%
White (Non-Hispanic): 39.8%
Black or African American: 11.6%
Asian: 5.1%
American Indian or Alaska Native: 1.5%
Two or More Races: 3.1%
Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander: 0.2%
Some other race: 0.4%

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Do you think the 36 ACT kids at Alabama are dumber than the 36 ACT kids at Rice?

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yes

because ACT scores are not the best or most comprehensive indicator of intelligence.
And all things considered the average student at Rice,, or Michigan, Souther Cal, Notre Dame , Georgia,Florida are smarter than the average student at 'bama
And for the record Rice has never lost the Alabama in football


And before someone brings it up to remind me or everybody else here I left before I had my degree so I'm not claiming any personal superiority over anyone who received a degree from any respected private state or online institution

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Every policy failure has Ivy League architects behind it, especially when you include schools like Stanford and MIT under the Ivy umbrella.

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Yes sir. And don't forget Berkeley.

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A confederacy of experts will always insure the wrong thing gets done because their egos are generally more important to them than the results of their ideas that they heap upon others.

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Yes, this is true. Especially so-called evil geniuses / "experts" and malignant narcissists are attracted to the manipulating the power structure.

It is also true that any and all "wrong things done" aka FUBAR'd are completely by design, by script, by cast and direction. Benevolence? Not so much (or at all.)

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Your score on a standardized test such as the ACT or SAT is the number one predictive measure on how well you will handle college level work.

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that is not an absolute metric of intelligence
which was the question
well is a gump more dumber than an Owl was the general question I don't recall the test scores used in the question...

Whether someone succeeds at a college-level environment in obtaining an education does not match up with IQ it can be an indicator but it's not an absolute

And in advance, I beg your apologies for any delay in responding i'm having an equally stupid argument on the O T

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So you’re saying the test-optional, non-binary gender studies freak at Rice is more intelligent than the 36 ACT engineering student at Alabama because Rice > Bama.

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Rice is consistently in the top 20

Can you find fault with how the rankings are done, sure . It would still generally be agreed that a school ranked in the top 20 is better than a school that struggles to be ranked in the 200s


If you disagree then I would ask you why was Rice was not in the college playoffs this year and how did the come up with their rankings?


Again in all of history Alabama has never beaten Rice in a football game

In hindsight, I wish I had gone to Washington U in Saint Louis I had a partial and a promise for additional assistance


but I look bad in red

But I had been a Rice fan since I was eight years old

stoopid

There is still a place in academia for upper echelon/prestigious Ivy League schools, particularly those that are strong in STEM. On the other hand most universities have become cultural Marxism finishing schools. Look at Harvard, Duke, Yale, etc. law graduates, I guarantee most of those law graduates are hard core leftists and have been for the past 50-60 years..... our current leftist judiciary would be proof of my claims.