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re: The one huge major divide amongst Conservatives

Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:59 am to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:59 am to
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I never said that. Moron. I simply pointed out you’re a hypocrite and a disingenuous piece of shite. And I am correct.

Looks like the trust fund baby is mad
Posted by onepiecemayne
Member since Nov 2023
908 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:00 am to
The Trump admin is crazy good at lying and gaslighting. They pull it off way better than the Dems do.
Posted by rileytiger
Surfing The Gulf of America
Member since Feb 2007
4090 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:04 am to
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Israel. And it’s the major topic that is tearing the Right apart.


Nobody really cares accept a few conspiracy theorist and dumbasses.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297576 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:05 am to
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Nobody really cares accept a few conspiracy theorist and dumbasses


Bingo. The drama queens care, the rest of us are watching the economy
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16595 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:40 am to
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Disliking Israel doesn't mean that you love their enemies



Actually it kind of does. (Maybe love is too strong a word). You can't be Switzerland in this issue.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170755 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:42 am to
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Actually it kind of does.

Actually, no it doesn't. At all.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2859 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:18 am to
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neocon bullshite


You mean supporting our primary source of intelligence in the region with some of our most vocal enemies?

You mean helping defend the only Democracy in the Middle East?

You mean ensuring that we won't see the ethnic cleansing of a particular race of people in our lifetime?

That neocon bullshite?

Just say you're an isolationist and we can disagree on principle.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 11:18 am
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35628 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:36 am to
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Israel. And it’s the major topic that is tearing the Right apart.

It's basically only tearing you apart if you're a staunch hardliner on Team Fuentes/Tucker or Team TPUSA/Shapiro (strange bedfellows)... in which case you should practice introspect and look to The Word for answers.

You've got these "influencers" out there flinging shite at one another very publicly in "conservative self-deprecation" based on their interpretations of theology. But most of us on the outside looking in, just think, "WTH are y'all doing, really?"

I like Tucker a lot but I disagree with some of his views, and that's OK. I absolutely despise Fuentes but he has some very valid arguments that I won't deny, and that's OK. I like Ben Shapiro quite a bit for the most part, but he is inarguably "Israel-first" above all else, and that's his prerogative.

But I don't really sweat any of it any more. The board is set and the pieces are moving. This is all predetermined and will play out exactly as it needs to play out. We are powerless to do anything except for getting ourselves right with GOD.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170755 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:39 am to
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You mean supporting our primary source of intelligence in the region with some of our most vocal enemies?


Funny. None of these countries were our enemies before Israel came along.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85056 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:41 am to
Powermullah back on the camel.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
462 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:58 am to
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Antisemitism is a growing problem for the right. It's beyond just being critical of Israel


Weird statement. Being critical of Israel has been codified as antisemitism. Seems like a problem for any constitutionalist. And there are enormous differences between conservatives and constitutionalists.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74444 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:02 pm to
Oil changed the paradigm. And the Cold War and the establishment of Israel.
Not. Just. Israel.
This is not International Realtions for dummies.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20675 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:06 pm to
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It is not tearing us apart. But it is an issue

Exactly this.

I’m not changing any votes for any candidates over Israel.

I’m in support of Israel being able to defend themselves and what happened with the terror attacks was horrible.

But I’m sure as hell asking why Jim F’ing Jordan has an Israeli flag outside his office and why AIPAC doesn’t have to register under FARA.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Completely wrong. The arguments among one time close Conservative allies has turned very nasty. Remember the Ben Shapiro/Candace Owen split? Very nasty.

It has become an extremely polarizing event especially since the Charlie Kirk assassination.

Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson are now enemies.


Arguments among conservative podcasters and influencers dont represent a real divide among most conservatives in any meaningful way. At least not at this point.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41511 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:26 pm to
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Arguments among conservative podcasters and influencers dont represent a real divide among most conservatives in any meaningful way. At least not at this point.


The issue of Israel is far down the list of things I actually care about.
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
2762 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:31 pm to
Then a certain tribe needs to stop going around calling people on the right antisemitic for being America First. Not Israel First. America First! Their compulsive need for wanting to control the narrative is the issue.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35156 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:37 pm to
Popping off at the mouth and calling someone “antisemitic” for voicing some legitimate concern(s) over the American-Israeli relationship is simply idiocy. Just exactly the same as popping off at the mouth and calling someone “Israel First” for voicing any indication of support whatsoever for Israel or its people and so on and so on.

Congrats to the idiots on both sides. Both groups are so very proud of their idiocy, at that.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31159 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:41 pm to
america first
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9818 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:53 pm to
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America First vs. Israel First is pretty simple.


Nah, it's not that simple at all. You can still be America First without being a whacko JOOtard.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9818 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:54 pm to
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The only good thing about Trump's tantrums about Massie is the raising of this issue.


Massie's bitch arse is the one throwing TDS tantrums and voting with Democrats on open borders, taxes, and taking out narco terrorists.
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