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re: The official Education rankings are out
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:31 pm to the808bass
Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:31 pm to the808bass
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Any more guesses
It wasn't a guess it was an observation that the data wasn't supplied. You're really good at reading into stuff things that aren't there
This post was edited on 5/5/25 at 10:40 pm
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Posted on 5/5/25 at 10:38 pm to the808bass
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Fox - $100k
Windsor - $65k
Festus - $71k
So what are your theories as to why Festus is outperforming Fox?
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:14 am to anc
Wonder what all those "blue" states have in common...
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:48 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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It wasn't a guess it was an observation that the data wasn't supplied.
You were guessing that the confounding variable was going to be income.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:57 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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So what are your theories as to why Festus is outperforming Fox?
Fox has issues with corruption/nepotism and a network of insiders who keep the facilities looking nice so parents who aren’t really data analysts think the school is doing fine.
Also, the National problem of having school-related elections on the opposite part of the year keeps a smaller group of engaged voters controlling a school board that is utterly incompetent and has been for 40 years.
Festus has great teacher tenure, lots of experienced teachers. (Missouri retirement system for teachers keeps them pretty locked in once they hit around year 10 of service). Competent but not flashy superintendent and really good elementary principal.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:14 am to the808bass
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You were guessing that the confounding variable was going to be income
I surmised that it was possible because in many cases that is the confounding variable. Surely you will acknowledge that
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:24 am to anc
It looks like states that took in the most undocumenteds have fallen drastically in the rankings.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 8:47 am to Grumpy Nemesis
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I surmised that it was possible because in many cases that is the confounding variable.
When you get past the district level, that is accurate. The data smooths out in the macro as the effects of good local administration and bad local administration regresses to the mean.
Posted on 5/6/25 at 9:58 am to the808bass
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When you get past the district level, that is accurate. The data smooths out in the macro as the effects of good local administration and bad local administration regresses to the mean
Which is sort of my point really. Sure there are local anomalies but they really can't be attributed to anything the state is doing and if you compare like to like between states you're pretty much going to find very little effect that could be attributed to the states.
We've never figured out how to expand the local anomalies to larger levels. Now my personal position is that's because they're not scalable but I suppose there's an argument to be had there
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 10:37 am
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