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re: The official 14 point US-Iran MoU deal has been released
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 6/17/26 at 4:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Iran's getting money right off the bat via the termination of sanctions and the ability to sell oil along with them getting back frozen funds.
Once they fulfill certain requirements. There is so much left to negotiate. Maybe wait the 60 days and read the actual agreement before melting down about it.
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upon signing the MOU.
Wrong. They get nothing until the deal
Is fully negotiated and agreed upon.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 5:00 pm
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Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:00 pm to NC_Tigah
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Did the MOU say that?
It is in there…but like everything else in there….it is the goal subject to certain stipulations and requirements. Tons of negotiations still to come. It makes no mention of timing or the amount being considered.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:01 pm to BBONDS25
So what did the U.S. gain that we didn't have before this military operation began? A pinky promise from Iran?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:03 pm to Mikes My Tiger
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So what did the U.S. gain that we didn't have before this military operation began?
We destroyed a bunch of old men and old equipment.
This post was edited on 6/17/26 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:03 pm to Adam Banks
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Have you ever made a budget?
Personal or corporate? Yes to both. What is the relevance of this question?
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Thus every dollar they get from “gulf states” for “power plants” is money they don’t have to spend of their own on that and money they can allocate to military
Planned parenthood is being handed money for nothing in return. If what Vance said is true the monies going to Iran are loans or investments. You don’t think the stipulations to be included in the agreement won’t address that?
Have you ever negotiated a contract?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:04 pm to BBONDS25
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Planned parenthood is being handed money for nothing in return
Completely relevant point. I now buy into your argument unequivocably.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:06 pm to Obtuse1
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You can not be this oblivious. Iran will continue to seek nuclear weapons in any way it can. This agreement is just like any other; there is no real way to ensure durability, just like when the Trump administration unilaterally withdrew from the JCPOA on a random Tuesday.
This argument requires us to believe NO deal with Iran can ever be made. So our options are to either let world’s top sponsor of terror develop a nuke or go in and wipe them all out in a full scare ground war. That’s a pretty bold position to take.
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The reality is that this deal will rightfully be compared and contrasted with the JCPOA, for it to be considered a better deal, it has to be better enough to justify the sunk costs from the last few months. So far, it is fundamentally not as good, but one can't fully determine that until the final deal is made (or not) in the future.
You just said Iran won’t honor any deal. So why would we compare two deals that Iran would ignore?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:07 pm to Mikes My Tiger
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So what did the U.S. gain that we didn't have before this military operation began? A pinky promise from Iran?
So far. Let’s see what the agreement looks like when they negotiate the other 90 percent.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:07 pm to hawgfaninc
If you'll defend this deal as a "win" for Trump, then it's time to admit to yourself that you'll support anything and everything Trump does because he's the one who did it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:08 pm to TheRock
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Completely relevant point. I now buy into your argument unequivocably.
if you don’t understand the relevance of that in response to his analogy that is just sad. I couldn’t care less if you buy into my argument. You, like many others, are likely posting with such passion…from a place of complete ignorance.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:09 pm to Chuck Barris
quote:Define the "deal"?
If you'll defend this deal
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:10 pm to Chuck Barris
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If you'll defend this deal as a "win" for Trump, then it's time to admit to yourself that you'll support anything and everything Trump does because he's the one who did it.
Says more about you than those you attempt to criticize. 90-95 percent of the deal is still to be negotiated. Anyone definitively declaring this a win for either side is doing so for ideological reasons. (Like or hate Trump). That’s it.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:13 pm to BBONDS25
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if you don’t understand the relevance of that in response to his analogy that is just sad.
Planned Parenthood and its funding has nothing to do with Iran, this deal, or any financial benefit they may receive. You're trying to invoke another issue to garner sympathy or whatever emotion to your argument when they are in no way related.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:16 pm to BBONDS25
quote:If you're arguing that this document tells us next to nothing about the relative strength of the two sides' bargaining positions or how effectively we met our goals for this war, then I'll just say that I disagree and leave it at that.
Says more about you than those you attempt to criticize. 90-95 percent of the deal is still to be negotiated.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:18 pm to BBONDS25
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It is in there
I don’t think it is.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:27 pm to hawgfaninc
hawgfaninc, I ain't reading all 16 pages of this, but are you going to apologize to the people you accused of spewing Iranian propaganda for quoting this two days ago?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:29 pm to BBONDS25
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Maybe wait the 60 days
No, this deal is trash as it stands and will only get worse.
Where do I sign up to officially enroll as a Panican?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 5:51 pm to BBONDS25
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Typical liberal projection. Youre the muppet convinced a deal that is maybe 5% settled is a bad deal. You have no clue. Youre just repeating what you’re told. A muppet.
First, I would agree that very little of this agreement is settled, especially the most important parts. With that said, why then do you have 40+ posts in this thread arguing about vapor, and at the very least, why are you not just repeating the point that nothing is final?
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:11 pm to Adam Banks
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Trump claims that we caused over a $1 trillion in damages
…..ok?
And?
He does understand that’s the point of bombing right?
That is a counter to those saying that Iran is going to come out financially stronger than they went into it. if it is $0.01 more than $300 billion then Iran has lost money when they did not have much money left to lose before this. I have no earthly idea how much damage we inflicted on Iran and 99.9999999999% of people in the world do not either. However, if we set the O/U at $300 billion then I am taking the over.
Posted on 6/17/26 at 6:12 pm to hawgfaninc
Thanks for sharing the actual text
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