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re: The Netherlands just told its citizen investors to go to hell.

Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:51 pm to
Speaking of a dumbass who would support it or feign ambivalence
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 12:53 pm to
This is terrifying. It would destroy the entire financial system along with many publicly traded corporations as their stock would plummet
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
2802 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:01 pm to
Paid by the Gulf states once Iran dismantled their nuclear program and enrichment not the US lol you just reconfirmed how much of a dumbass you are, congrats! That is a big step in your journey to becoming an overweight, bitter female with a megaphone at a No Kings rally
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2005 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:07 pm to
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I have my eye on some prime property there I would like to buy for next to nothing


There's a carve out for real estate gains. For the people that stay they might shift capital over to the real estate market and the prices will skyrocket.

Of course some bureaucrat will pass another law about affordable housing at that point.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
31094 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:10 pm to
Wonder how many Netherlanders bought SpaceX stock.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14055 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:14 pm to
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I have my eye on some prime property there I would like to buy for next to nothing.


You'd be dumb as hell to do it.

Remember, the government is also the entity that determines the "value" of the property. It doesn't actually have to really be worth what they say it's worth for them to impose the tax.

EDIT: Missed the post above about the real estate exception. He's right, though...that's next.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103167 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:25 pm to
If something like this were to happen buying physical gold and silver would be the way to go
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17642 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Most leftist governments & politicians in the world want to tax unrealized gains. They are only liberal with YOUR money. When considering voting, plan accordingly.


Apparently you aren't familiar with the history of this proposal.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44581 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:30 pm to
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So should online gambling be taxed at the rate of the payout prior to the event?


Well?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59856 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:32 pm to
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so 0.331521739% of the population petitioned against


What percentage of the population voted for it?

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good on the Netherlands


You’re too dumb to understand the “unintended” consequences of a policy like this.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59856 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:36 pm to
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the threshold is €1800 so you'd only start paying the 36% Box 3 tax once your actual return (interest, dividends, rent, value gains, etc.) exceeds that €1,800 threshold in a given yea


is that a lot to you?

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The new system is trying to fix that by taxing what you actually earn


Are you calling unrealized gains earnings? Good Lord.


How are they going to value closely held entities? How often? If they tried this here the courts would be absolutely packed every year over disputes. This is an awful idea. Unless you’re a poor who thinks 1800 euro is a lot.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17348 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:39 pm to
And further analysis shows it was called off. And this was 7 months ago.

LINK

NETHERLANDS: Dutch Government bows to pressure over controversial tax on unrealised gains
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As published on: brusselssignal.eu, Wednesday 25 February, 2026.

Dutch finance minister Eelco Heinen has announced a dramatic reversal of the recently approved — and passionately opposed — Box 3 tax reform.

In doing so, he is conceding that the controversial levy on unrealised capital gains will be scrapped in favour of a more traditional approach.

The decision comes just weeks after the House of Representatives passed the bill, as mounting criticism from investors, business leaders and political factions forced the new centre-left government to reconsider its strategy.

The Actual Return in Box 3 Act, approved on February 12 with 93 votes, was designed to replace a deemed-return system previously struck down by the Supreme Court for violating property rights.

Under these new rules, savings and investments would be taxed at a flat 36 per cent rate based on actual yields, including annual paper gains on assets such as stocks, bonds and cryptocurrencies; a move intended to prevent further financial losses for the Treasury after years of court-ordered refunds.

Yet the reform quickly sparked outrage.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59856 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Elon rigged voting machines to get trump elected.


Has anyone besides you alleged this.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59856 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:42 pm to
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Investors should not get breaks for bad decisions. Plain and simple.


You tax their gains, but allowing loss offset is a break? This is a real good way to halt investment. Do you know how many revolutionary creations were long shots? You want to eliminate that. Brilliant strategy.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64232 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:43 pm to
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And further analysis shows it was called off. And this was 7 months ago.


Yep. I got a lot of downvotes from retards on this board for stating that their Parliament did not pass the measure, despite the OP saying that it had. Apparently this board doesn’t understand how a bicameral legislature works, despite us having one here.

Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14055 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:52 pm to
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If something like this were to happen buying physical gold and silver would be the way to go


Why?

You don't think they would apply the tax to unrealized gains for silver and gold?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17348 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 1:58 pm to
I still am amazed that the Netherlands has about 19 million people liviing there/

The size of the country is (roughly) 42000 square km

That is Maryland. Those people live almost on top of each other (imagine three New York cities and tag on a Chicago and put it all in Maryland).

No wonder they all have no cars but just do bicycles.



Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17642 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Yep. I got a lot of downvotes from retards on this board for stating that their Parliament did not pass the measure, despite the OP saying that it had. Apparently this board doesn’t understand how a bicameral legislature works, despite us having one here.


Oh it gets even better when you look at the makeup of the coalition government in the lower chamber that passed this and who defended it...
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6274 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:35 pm to
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I still am amazed that the Netherlands has about 19 million people liviing there/

The size of the country is (roughly) 42000 square km

That is Maryland. Those people live almost on top of each other (imagine three New York cities and tag on a Chicago and put it all in Maryland).

No wonder they all have no cars but just do bicycles


Lived there for a couple years right out of high school (88-90). There was some open country there, but not much.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
44433 posts
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:14 pm to
I just wanna know when we're going to take Greenland.

It's rightfully ours if we deem it so.

Phooq'em.
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