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re: The move of Jesus in and amongst Islam is truly a thing to behold these days
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:41 am to 3down10
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:41 am to 3down10
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What do you say to the over 100,000 civilians the US has killed in the past 25 years?
Is this direct US action, or anti US groups attacking civilians so they can retake that country via terror.
I always found it strange that these deaths get attributed to us vs the people actually doing the killing.
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Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:42 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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The frick they do. Where are all their direct mailings? Where are all their fun runs? Benefit concerts? To the extent that they exist, they are trivial and of no consequence, because moslems are not generous people. And on top of the pedophilia, they are also incestuous inbreds.
Now, please identify the pedophiles who rule us and provide the evidence.
Just look it up. The idea they don't do that stuff is just some bullshite you made up.
Are you pretending Epstein Island didn't exist?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:45 am to Narax
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Is this direct US action, or anti US groups attacking civilians so they can retake that country via terror.
I always found it strange that these deaths get attributed to us vs the people actually doing the killing.
That is direct kills from US bombs etc. Indirectly the number is in the millions.
But it is hard to get accurate numbers in these things. I figure either way, it's too many people. We shouldn't have been in Iraq/Afghanistan to start with.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 12:48 am to 3down10
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That is direct kills from US bombs etc
Who pulled those numbers together?
Like you said its hard to find numbers on that.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:00 am to somethingdifferent
quote:Just wanted to say 'thank you' for taking the time to respond to that conspiracy theorist and perpetual hater of Christ. The more who call him to task on his lies, the better
somethingdifferent
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:04 am to Narax
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Who pulled those numbers together?
Like you said its hard to find numbers on that.
I just did some searches and came across things like this.
Number of documented civilian deaths in the Iraq war from 2003 to 2024
And also like this, it has some weapon break downs as well. But it's kind of a pain because it includes the other things as well.
Iraqi deaths from violence 2003–2011
I figured 100k was a conservative number considering this is only Iraq and doesn't include Afghanistan or other areas we've bombed in the middle east.
No matter what, it's way too many.
This post was edited on 12/28/25 at 1:06 am
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:13 am to 3down10
quote:You are clearly not taught from God, because even your use of the 2nd table of the law contradicts what God teaches.
God taught me. You are on the path to hell.
The image you provided says:
"Thou shalt not kill: unless you're a cop or soldier and been given orders". God commands the death penalty to be used by the government of Israel, and He commanded soldiers of Israel to drive out the idolaters of the land of Canaan, including by killing them. God recognizes that killing can be justice, but He forbids murder.
"Thou shalt not steal: unless you're an IRS, DEA, ATF, NSA, FBI, or TSA agent". God supports taxation as necessary for the upkeep of government in society. He commanded Israel to pay taxes and commands the Church to tithe. Jesus paid a temple tax and said to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, when speaking of taxes.
"Thou shalt not lie: unless you're a politician, news outlet, corporation, officer of the law, or public official". This one is pretty clear and straight forward that we are to speak the truth at all times, and there are no exceptions for being a politician or otherwise.
"Thou shalt not covet: except for our neighbors' fruit of labor to pay for the wars, aid, entitlements, services, and laws." Again, see above about taxes. There is precedent for laws about leaving gleanings of fields for the poor and sojourners to feed them. Taxes are used lawfully in the Bible for just wars and administration of government. Taxation is not theft, or else God wouldn't allow or command it.
Because you recognize God's words in the Bible, you need to be consistent with the rest of it when comparing to your own alleged personal revelation from God. Otherwise, there is no test for us regarding that revelation to you, and we need to reject you as a false prophet, or else you need to ensure you aren't mentioning anything about it being revelation.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:13 am to weagle1999
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Ironically the Muslims are more tolerant of Jesus than the Jews.
I haven't seen any videos of Jews cutting the heads off of Christians? Have you?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 1:41 am to FooManChoo
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You are clearly not taught from God, because even your use of the 2nd table of the law contradicts what God teaches.
I don't seek or need your approval.
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"Thou shalt not kill: unless you're a cop or soldier and been given orders". God commands the death penalty to be used by the government of Israel, and He commanded soldiers of Israel to drive out the idolaters of the land of Canaan, including by killing them. God recognizes that killing can be justice, but He forbids murder.
Then I guess you also believe in killing all non believers as outlined in Deuteronomy 13. And you also stone your neighbors for how they plant their crops as outlined in Leviticus.
Self defense is when it is ok or to protect others.
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"Thou shalt not steal: unless you're an IRS, DEA, ATF, NSA, FBI, or TSA agent". God supports taxation as necessary for the upkeep of government in society. He commanded Israel to pay taxes and commands the Church to tithe. Jesus paid a temple tax and said to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, when speaking of taxes.
None of the agencies mentioned do the things you list. Those things are paid by local taxes.
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"Thou shalt not lie: unless you're a politician, news outlet, corporation, officer of the law, or public official". This one is pretty clear and straight forward that we are to speak the truth at all times, and there are no exceptions for being a politician or otherwise.
Yet it is considered normal and is expected/accepted behavior.
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"Thou shalt not covet: except for our neighbors' fruit of labor to pay for the wars, aid, entitlements, services, and laws." Again, see above about taxes. There is precedent for laws about leaving gleanings of fields for the poor and sojourners to feed them. Taxes are used lawfully in the Bible for just wars and administration of government. Taxation is not theft, or else God wouldn't allow or command it.
It is taken by theft by the threat of death, not willing by people following God. It's also not used for the purposes you list.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 8:35 am to 3down10
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Just look it up. The idea they don't do that stuff is just some bullshite you made up. Are you pretending Epstein Island didn't exist?
Ah yes. The old “luck it up” retort. Classic response of a retard who has no evidence to back up his accusations. I guess the moon landing was faked too, right?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:01 am to 3down10
quote:My words are for others. I already know you are blinded to the truth because you believe you have received a personal revelation, and nothing is going to convince you otherwise, not even the word of God in the Bible, that you wrongly use.
I don't seek or need your approval.
quote:I believe that governments can make such laws but that they see not necessary. The civil/judicial laws and ceremonial laws were abrogated with the death of Christ and the gospel given to the Gentiles.
Then I guess you also believe in killing all non believers as outlined in Deuteronomy 13. And you also stone your neighbors for how they plant their crops as outlined in Leviticus.
That’s beside the point, though. If God commands a thing, it cannot be sin.
There are examples of just war and the death penalty throughout Scripture and they cannot violate the 6th commandment. So, your image is incorrect about those things.
quote:All governments use taxes to fund administration, like paying workers’ salaries.
None of the agencies mentioned do the things you list. Those things are paid by local taxes.
My point wasn’t to focus on the details of how tax dollars are spent, but to say that the Bible doesn’t treat taxes like theft. Jesus told the tax collector to take only what is owed, for example. So again, the image is wrong about the 8th commandment.
quote:It shouldn’t be. The standard is God‘s infallible word, and according to His word, lying is sinful.
Yet it is considered normal and is expected/accepted behavior.
quote:Again, government collecting taxes is not theft, but a standard practice supported by Scripture. They are the ones printing the currency, which was Jesus’ point in asking whose face was on the money before saying to give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar.
It is taken by theft by the threat of death, not willing by people following God. It's also not used for the purposes you list.
Regarding your pictures that violate the 2nd commandment: no, it isn’t the job of the government to take over all care for the poor or the needy, but there isn’t anything inherently sinful in their helping to do so. All Christians still have the obligation to help their neighbors as they have the ability and resources, following the order of loves. Government using taxes to help is not unbiblical in itself.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:06 am to FooManChoo
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Just wanted to say 'thank you' for taking the time to respond to that conspiracy theorist and perpetual hater of Christ. The more who call him to task on his lies, the better
He’s not angry, but you are. And are you ignoring somethingdifferent’s lies about polytheism among the Israelites?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:09 am to somethingdifferent
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Like the idea that the Jews were originally polytheistic
They were. I can’t believe that you’re still here pushing your bullshite.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:17 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:SM’s hatred of Christ doesn’t necessitate the emotion of anger to be present, but he hates Christ all the same. God says as much in His word.
He’s not angry, but you are.
I’m not angry, either. I don’t hate SM, even with his attacks against the truth. I hate his sin, but I hate my own sin, as well. I want him to be saved, and I want the same thing for you.
quote:No. If I understood him rightly, he wasn’t talking about polytheism existing among the Israelites, but that such polytheism was outlawed among them and it persisted in varying levels, even against the law. The nation was founded by Yahweh and He judged the people time and time again for polytheistic idolatry precisely because it was taught to them that there aren’t other gods, and that they should worship the one, true God who brought them out of Egypt. God reminds them of that a lot.
And are you ignoring somethingdifferent’s lies about polytheism among the Israelites?
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:18 am to FooManChoo
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If I understood him rightly
You didn’t.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:35 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Since you are so concerned about me refuting his alleged lies about Israelite polytheism, please provide the specific quotes you are referring to, then, or help me understand his intent so I can respond.
You didn’t.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:43 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Ironically the Muslims are more tolerant of Jesus than the Jews.
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^calling bullshiit on this.
Jews make up 2.4% of the US population.
Jews account for 10% of those killed on 9/11.
Link to source
Posted on 12/28/25 at 9:52 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Where is the Moslem United way?
Are you seriously claiming that the United Way is a Christian-based organization?
FYI - Muslims have an organization called "Red Crescent" that is their equivalent of the Red Cross.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:19 am to TulsaSooner78
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Integris Baptist Hospital in Oklahoma City has an entire wing named after a Muslim doctor (Nazih Zuhdi)
Irrelevant. Now try actually addressing my question, twstwaffle.
Posted on 12/28/25 at 10:49 am to soonerinlOUisiana
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Ah yes. The old “luck it up” retort. Classic response of a retard who has no evidence to back up his accusations. I guess the moon landing was faked too, right?
You are the one making the claim they don't have them. They clearly do.
And in 1969 it would have been easier to go to the moon than to fake it.
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