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re: The most political biased Federal Reserve Chairman in the history of the Federal Reserve.

Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:06 pm to
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
10114 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:06 pm to
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The most political biased Federal Reserve Chairman in the history of the Federal Reserve.


Which decisions are more impactful to the average citizens fiscal health:

The Fed moving rates up or down by a quarter of one percent

The US government continuing, in the face of 4.9 trillion revenue, spending 6.9 trillion, eroding confidence in the dollar, sending people to gold and silver and crypto, and jacking up inflation
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5076 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:16 pm to
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Which decisions are more impactful to the average citizens fiscal health:

The Fed moving rates up or down by a quarter of one percent

The US government continuing, in the face of revenging 4.9 trillion, spending 6.9 trillion, eroding confidence in the dollar, sending people to gold and silver and crypto, and jacking up inflation


But if only we had cheaper money, things would get cheaper.

It's almost like a bad AOC meme
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134945 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:19 pm to
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Now go eat your pudding
I had gumbo for lunch, but thanks anyway.

I've already referenced that chart you linked and it plainly shows the last time 30 year fixed rate mortgages were at 9% was in 1990-1992.

Now you've apparently moved the goal posts to 8% rates since you were caught lying about 9% interest rates.

So allow me to refresh your memory what you posted that I asked for a link to support:

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Rates went to 9% and values still went up (Posted on 1/15/26 at 9:31 am to Powerman)

So, again, provide a link showing home values kept increasing when mortgage rates were 9%.

The chart in this link ( Historical U.S. Home Prices) shows median home prices FELL between 1990 and 1992 when rates were at or approaching 9%.

You never tell the truth.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:25 pm to
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But that does not address the price of the asset that is overall inflated.
Why is it overall inflated. If you don't want to purchase it don't. Rent.
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Your not making things more affordable,
Why is that my job?
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The price still goes up.
Price of everything goes up. That's how the world works. If you make the sacrifice to buy the 400K home and you live your entire life there, does it matter to you what its cost will be after 30, 40, 50 years?
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If you lower the rates builders and sellers of existing stock will see it as a call to list at higher prices so your example fails as the asking price of the asset goes up
That's how the world works. Price is always whatever the market will bear.. If you work, you sell your hourly time to your employer. For the time you sell, you get an hourly wage. For his money, he gets your work. If people in other similar/same jobs are getting more pay, you will likely ask for a raise.... If you improve your performance and your value to the company, you will likely deserve and receive a raise.
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so your example fails as the asking price of the asset goes up....so any savings at 6% get eaten up going forward by the increase in price of the asset.

Once you purchase the asset, you have locked the price in. When the asset goes up in value, that is equity to you...
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134945 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:27 pm to
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When in the last 25 years have the rates been anywhere near 9% for a 30 year fixed conforming or FHA / VA loan?

2023
WRONG.

Your interest rate chart which you linked shows annual average rate in 2023 to be 7%. Rates may have gone above 7% in 2023 but it was for only a very short period of time.

And in that short time period median home prices in the U.S. DECREASED by an average of $11,000.

30 year mortgage rates never went to 9% in 2023.
This post was edited on 1/15/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37623 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:37 pm to
No dumbshit. Rates peaked between 7.5 and 8 in Oct/Nov after hovering between 6.25 and 6.75 through the summer. 2024 they hovered in the upper 6's to low 7s

You should be a fiction writer......9%........
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65813 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:39 pm to
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His unexpected October rate cut on the eve of the 2024 election was a huge red flag.


This, if anyone doubts his Political bias, it was that cut.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:39 pm to
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The 400K house is still 400K. You'll still have price inflation at the lower rates as the borrower who could afford the house at 6% all of a sudden discovers if the rate is 5.5 he can get a more desirable house at 5.5%.
Perhaps.
Then again, actual data doesn't consistently support the conclusion.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21459 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:43 pm to
No federal job should exist without a mechanism for removal. The idea that the entire country should be held hostage for x number of years regardless of performance or competence is mind numbing. We are sacrificing the economic health of the country at the alter of independence.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23264 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:45 pm to
Mayer Rothschild proclaimed many times that when in control of the money supply of a nation he could care less about any law it made.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65813 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:48 pm to
I don’t think the Fed battle is about mortgage rates, as they have no control over them, they only control the overnight banking rates, which follow the 2 year. They pushed the 16 Trillion debt refinance to next year. So what I think is going on, and not just me, is that they want to lower the short term rates, refinance the debt at the Fed rate( low by then if he gets his guy in) and then refinance when the long term rates are very low.. Yellen didn’t do that, she financed at the 2 year, cause it was so high with the Biden inflation years..She screwed everyone IMO, but they were trying to put lipstick on a pig.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98296 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:54 pm to
You are beyond predictable

Honeslty just stop replying to me moving forward

You are the biggest clown ever
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134945 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:54 pm to
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His unexpected October rate cut on the eve of the 2024 election was a huge red flag.



This, if anyone doubts his Political bias, it was that cut.
The last Fed rate cut before the election in 2024 was in September when a weak jobs report was announced and the inflation rate had fallen from 3.3% in May to 2.4% in September.

There was no Fed interest rate cut in October and the Fed rate cut in November was after the Presidential election.
Posted by Bandit1980
God's Country
Member since Nov 2019
4618 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 12:56 pm to
Explain how you became so openly ignorant..............
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134945 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Honeslty just stop replying to me moving forward

So I make you uncomfortable when I present verifiable facts calling you out for your lying bullshite?

Okay, good to know...
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98296 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:16 pm to
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So I make you uncomfortable when I present verifiable facts calling you out for your lying bullshite?


No you are just too much like a nagging ex wife

You get links that show rates are at 8% after crying they werent then start talking about 9%

Your stupidity gives me a headache
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
8168 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:16 pm to
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The higher the interest rate, the higher your mortgage payment will be,


This is how a 5 year old looks at a market. Let me help you sound more like a semi-educated adult:

When rates go up demand drops and housing prices tend to trend down. When interest rates go down demand rises and housing prices tend to go up. At this point the issue with housing is allowing private equity firms to swoop in on working young families, bid 20% over asking price and frick people out of ownership and thus the American Dream. There, you’re all caught up
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98296 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:18 pm to
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8 in Oct/Nov


So 8% is nowhere near 9%

Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
4015 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:19 pm to
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Trump should have vetted him better. Seems to be a pattern


There's no reason (and it's unconstitutional) that the entity in charge of the monetary supply should be run by someone the President cannot fire. People will say we need the Fed, it has to be that way, but it doesn't. And having the Fed has not prevented the total erosion of the value of the dollar, nor the Great Depression, Black Friday, crashes in 2000 and 2008 or 2020.

There is no reason that one of the top 2 or 3 most important things the government does should be run by people who are not elected and are not in the control of people who are elected. The president (of either party) should be able to fire all fed board members on the first day in office, if he wants.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134945 posts
Posted on 1/15/26 at 1:20 pm to
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then start talking about 9%
YOU are the one would first talked about 9% mortgage rates in this thread, not me.

You can't even remember your own lies.

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Your stupidity gives me a headache
I'm pretty sure your headache is caused by too much drugs and by your own stupidity.
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