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re: The most Christian President in American History delivers a Message on Easter Sunday

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Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:21 pm to
Seriously, are you off your meds?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:31 pm to
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very useful as a debate partner


I am not interested in debating. I use Grok as a quick source to back up my opinion with evidence. It literally takes seconds to get information from Grok that would take alot longer researching without it. For example... if you had a poster with a run of the mill business degree who didn't know the difference between "Record Inflation vs "Highest Inflation Ever" instead of wasting time debating back and forth with a retard you just post the Grok Analysis to body bag them and move on with your day As you can see by my question below, I am not manipulating it by framing or phrasing the question. Just a straightforward question.




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Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:47 pm to
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The most Christian President in American History delivers a Message on Easter Sunday



Carter has risen from the dead?

Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:48 pm to
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The most Christian President in American History
Satire?
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:49 pm to
I cant decide if I dislike trump more for faking a religion that basically says he's a piece of shite for everything he stand for or the Christians dumb enough to fall for the act. Both kinda deserve each other I guess
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 4:54 pm to
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Satire?


Why is it always the DeSimps and Libtards that hate President Trump being the most Christian President ever? Are you just jealous that Trump is the real Christian with a big heart and his actions and good deeds prove it? Trump has done more good deeds in his life than any of these self proclaimed "Principled Christian Conservatives"
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:00 pm to
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Why is it always the DeSimps and Libtards that hate President Trump being the most Christian President ever?
I wouldn't care if Trump went to mass 3 times a day. Or not at all. But what I do know... is Trump being the most Christian President ever.... is a silly assertion.

If you want to embarass yourself... carry on. I gave you the chance for a graceful exit.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:01 pm to
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I am not interested in debating.
Of course you are. If not, the only replies I'd receive from you would either be in agreement with me. or thanking me for my input and moving on.

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instead of wasting time debating back and forth with a retard you just post the Grok Analysis to body bag them and move on with your day


Firstly, you did that several times in this thread and didn't move on so I question the sincerity of that statement.

Secondly, a large part of my point was that AI isn't yet advanced enough to be the final word to "bodybag" someone's argument with. It is more useful in arenas heavily reliant on math and science, but in topics like politics, it really shows itself for what it basically is: an advanced search engine and human opinion aggregator.

For example, before I started my first political debate with Grok, I asked it a series of questions to look for bias. For several of those, I chose historic and current political figures from a variety of parties and ideologies and tasked it with answering the question "is this person a net positive for humanity? Please answer with a yes or no only and provide 10 paragraphs supporting your conclusion."

Answer for Trump below> for some reason, I don't think most of this board would accept its conclusion as fact:

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No.


Analysis of Trump's Impact on Humanity

The question of whether Donald Trump has been a net positive for humanity is complex and polarizing, but a critical examination of his actions, policies, and broader influence suggests that his impact has been, on balance, negative. This conclusion is based on a range of factors, including his political leadership, social influence, economic policies, environmental record, and global standing. The following paragraphs outline the reasoning behind this assessment, addressing both his contributions and the significant drawbacks that have shaped his legacy.

Trump’s presidency (2017–2021) and subsequent political influence have been marked by deep divisions in the United States and beyond. His rhetoric, often characterized by inflammatory language and personal attacks, has contributed to heightened polarization. While his supporters argue that his direct style gave voice to marginalized groups, critics point to the measurable rise in hate crimes and social unrest during his tenure. For example, FBI hate crime statistics showed a spike in incidents targeting racial and religious minorities from 2016 to 2020, correlating with his campaign and presidency. This divisiveness has undermined social cohesion, a critical component of societal progress, and fostered an environment of mistrust that continues to challenge democratic institutions.

Economically, Trump’s administration is credited with policies like the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which reduced corporate tax rates and spurred short-term economic growth. Supporters argue this created jobs and boosted markets, with unemployment reaching historic lows (3.5% in 2019) before the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the benefits were unevenly distributed, with the top 1% of earners gaining disproportionately, according to analyses from the Center for American Progress. The tax cuts also added an estimated $1.9 trillion to the federal deficit, per the Congressional Budget Office, raising concerns about long-term fiscal sustainability. This imbalance suggests that while some prospered, the broader economic impact was less equitable, limiting its positive contribution to humanity.

On the international stage, Trump’s “America First” policy reshaped U.S. foreign relations. His administration brokered the Abraham Accords, normalizing ties between Israel and several Arab states, a diplomatic achievement that fostered regional stability. However, his withdrawal from agreements like the Paris Climate Accord and the Iran nuclear deal weakened global cooperation on critical issues. The Paris withdrawal, in particular, hindered collective efforts to combat climate change, a pressing threat to humanity. Data from the IPCC indicates that global emissions reductions slowed post-2017, partly due to reduced U.S. leadership. These actions prioritized national interests over global welfare, diminishing Trump’s net positive impact.

Trump’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic is another significant factor. His administration’s Operation Warp Speed accelerated vaccine development, a remarkable achievement that saved countless lives. Yet, his public dismissal of scientific expertise, inconsistent messaging on masks, and downplaying of the virus’s severity contributed to confusion and higher mortality rates. The U.S., with 4% of the world’s population, accounted for roughly 20% of global COVID deaths by mid-2021, per Johns Hopkins University data. This mixed record—innovation marred by mismanagement—underscores the challenges of crediting him with a net positive effect during a global crisis.

Environmentally, Trump’s legacy is overwhelmingly negative. His administration rolled back over 100 environmental regulations, including protections for clean air and water, according to the Harvard Environmental Law Program. These deregulations prioritized industry over sustainability, exacerbating climate change and public health risks. For instance, the weakening of the Clean Power Plan increased coal plant emissions, contributing to an estimated 1,400 additional premature deaths annually, per a 2019 study in Nature. In an era when climate action is critical for humanity’s survival, these decisions represent a significant setback.

Trump’s influence on democratic norms also raises concerns. His refusal to concede the 2020 election and promotion of unfounded voter fraud claims culminated in the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot, which left five dead and shook democratic stability. The Brennan Center for Justice notes that post-2020, over 400 bills restricting voting access were introduced in state legislatures, inspired by Trump’s narrative. This erosion of trust in democratic processes has long-term implications for governance and civic engagement, undermining the foundations of a free society.
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Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:01 pm to
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Socially, Trump’s rhetoric and policies often alienated marginalized groups. His travel ban targeting Muslim-majority countries, upheld by the Supreme Court in 2018, was widely criticized as discriminatory, fostering fear and division. Similarly, his administration’s family separation policy at the U.S.-Mexico border, which affected over 5,000 children, per ACLU reports, drew global condemnation for its human rights implications. These actions, while appealing to his base, inflicted harm on vulnerable populations, outweighing any positive social contributions.

Supporters argue that Trump’s outsider status disrupted a corrupt political establishment, empowering disenfranchised voters. His deregulation and judicial appointments, including three Supreme Court justices, reshaped the judiciary in ways that conservatives view as protecting individual liberties. However, these changes often prioritized ideological goals over broader societal needs. For example, the 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade, influenced by his appointees, restricted reproductive rights for millions, sparking widespread backlash. This polarization limits the universal benefit of his reforms.

Finally, Trump’s post-presidency influence, including his continued dominance in Republican politics and media, perpetuates division. His endorsement of candidates and narratives shapes a political landscape where misinformation thrives, as seen in the spread of election fraud claims on platforms like X. While his ability to galvanize supporters is undeniable, the cost—fractured discourse and weakened institutions—outweighs the benefits. Humanity thrives on cooperation, trust, and shared progress, qualities that Trump’s influence has often undermined.

In conclusion, while Trump’s tenure included notable achievements like economic growth, diplomatic breakthroughs, and vaccine development, the broader consequences—division, environmental degradation, democratic erosion, and inequitable policies—tip the scale toward a net negative impact. His legacy reflects a prioritization of short-term gains and political loyalty over the long-term welfare of humanity, leaving a fractured world in its wake.
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Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:04 pm to
Trump looks at his WWJD bracelet every time he needs to make a decision and does the opposite of what Jesus would do.

He’s the most terrifically Christian Christian there ever was! His Christianity is tremendous! Really really very authentic.
Posted by Bengalbio
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:05 pm to
AI generated slop.


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Incorrect. Defense of Religious Liberty: Trump prioritized religious freedom, which many Christians view as a core tenet of their faith. He signed an Executive Order on February 6, 2025, establishing the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias, aimed at eliminating perceived anti-Christian policies and practices in federal agencies. During his first term, he issued an Executive Order in 2017 to uphold religious liberty, protecting the rights of religious organizations and individuals to act according to their beliefs. For example, he supported the Little Sisters of the Poor in their fight against mandates requiring contraceptive coverage, which they viewed as violating their conscience. These actions protected Christians from government overreach, making him a champion of the First Amendment’s guarantee of religious freedom. Pro-Life Policies: Trump is often described as the most pro-life president in U.S. history by his supporters. He was the first sitting president to speak at the March for Life in 2020, signaling strong support for the anti-abortion movement. He appointed three Supreme Court justices (Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett) who contributed to the 2022 Dobbs decision, overturning Roe v. Wade, a major victory for pro-life advocates. His administration also implemented policies like defunding international organizations that promote abortion, reinforcing his commitment to protecting unborn life, which aligns with the Christian ethic of valuing life from conception. Support for Israel: Trump’s foreign policy decisions, such as recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, moving the U.S. embassy there, and brokering the Abraham Accords, were seen as supportive of biblical Israel, resonating with evangelical Christians who view Israel’s prominence as tied to eschatological beliefs. His visit to the Western Wall in 2017, the first by a sitting U.S. president, was symbolic for many Christians who see support for Israel as a religious duty. Engagement with Evangelical Leaders: Trump cultivated close relationships with evangelical leaders like Paula White, Robert Jeffress, and Franklin Graham, who portrayed him as an ally of Christian causes. His administration included faith-based initiatives, such as the White House Faith Office, and he frequently invited pastors to pray at events, signaling a public embrace of Christian imagery and rhetoric. Some evangelical leaders, like Rabbi Jonathan Cahn and Lance Wallnau, likened Trump to biblical figures such as King Cyrus or Jehu, suggesting he was divinely appointed to advance Christian interests, despite not being a traditional Christian himself. Opposition to Perceived Anti-Christian Trends: Trump’s rhetoric often framed him as a defender of Christians against secularism, globalism, and progressive policies. His 2024 campaign characterized his mission as a “righteous crusade” to restore America as “one nation under God,” resonating with Christian nationalists who see him as protecting America’s Christian heritage. He criticized policies like the Biden administration’s 2024 declaration of Easter Sunday as “Transgender Day of Visibility,” positioning himself as a counter to perceived anti-Christian cultural shifts. Judicial Appointments: Beyond the Supreme Court, Trump appointed numerous conservative judges to federal courts, who are seen as likely to uphold religious liberty and traditional values. Supporters argue this will have a lasting impact on protecting Christian interests for decades. Cultural Symbolism: Trump’s public gestures, such as holding a Bible outside St. John’s Church in 2020 or selling special editions of the King James Bible in 2024, were seen by supporters as bold affirmations of Christian identity, even if controversial. After surviving an assassination attempt in July 2024, Trump claimed divine intervention, a narrative that reinforced his image as a God-protected leader among some Christians
Posted by RGT
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
The reason the left hates Trump or any one who believes in the Bible is they hate GODS commandments and his word. The left loves killing babies do you think the lord approves of abortion? They love homosexuality ,which the Bible say is sin.They believe premarrital sex is not a sin.They believe men on men women on women sex with different partners every night is not wrong.Everything in the Bible does not fit into their lifestiles.And we all know that anything not of GOD is evil and all that represents, hence the hatred they spew.
Posted by Sofaking2
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:28 pm to
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Trump is no where near the most Christian POTUS in US history. Stop trolling.
True but I have no problem giving the proper respect to our Savior.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:34 pm to
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"is this person a net positive for humanity? 


You are self admitted new to AI and seem to enjoy using it as a debate partner which is great for you but I don't use it for that purpose. I also don't ask it subjective questions like you did above. I use it more as a quick fact finding source to back up my opinion. My opinion is Trump by his actions have proven to be the Most Christian President ever so I ask Grok to list President Trump's Christian Accomplishments during his Presidency. My prompt is objective and used to back up my opinion not a subjective question. I am not knocking how you use AI just pointing out the differences
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 5:48 pm to
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I also don't ask it subjective questions like you did above.
I only did that, as I said, to test for biases, before tasking it with any political analysis. I posted one of the results to demonstrate, that, outside of hard sciences, for most tasks, Grok is more or less just a aggregation of biased human opinion, and you are potentially setting yourself up for failure by using it as your arbiter of right and wrong or true and false.

Anyways, family obligations call. Hope you're having a great Easter.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:38 pm to
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Grok is more or less just a aggregation of biased human opinion


How is listing President Trump's Christian Accomplishments during his Presidency "biased human opinion"? That is actual objective data. We are sure those things were Accomplished not speculating on what might have happened.


Below is a list of key actions and policies from President Donald Trump’s first term (2017–2021) and early second term (2025) that were celebrated by many Christian and evangelical communities as advancing Christian values, religious liberty, and pro-life agendas. These accomplishments are drawn from various sources, including official White House records, news reports, and perspectives from evangelical leaders. Note that public perception of these actions varies, and some were controversial or legally challenged. I’ve focused on verifiable actions and avoided speculative claims, while critically noting context where relevant.

First Term (2017–2021) Christian Accomplishments

Judicial Appointments:
Appointed three Supreme Court Justices (Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett) and 226 federal judges, many seen as constitutional originalists. These appointments were praised by evangelicals for their potential to uphold religious liberty and pro-life values in court rulings.

Example: Gorsuch’s nomination was lauded by Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention for exemplifying “intellectually robust conservatism” and “faithfulness to the Constitution.”

Executive Order on Religious Liberty (May 4, 2017):
Signed an executive order to enhance religious freedom, aiming to protect religious institutions’ First Amendment rights to advocate for causes aligned with their values. It instructed the IRS not to enforce the Johnson Amendment, which restricts churches from endorsing political candidates, though enforcement changes were limited.

Ensured religious organizations, like the Little Sisters of the Poor, were not forced to comply with Obamacare’s contraceptive mandate, protecting their conscience rights.

White House Faith and Opportunity Initiative (May 8, 2018):
Established this initiative to empower faith-based organizations in policy-making. It directed federal agencies to designate liaisons for faith-based partnerships, fostering collaboration with religious groups.

Pro-Life Policies:
Reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy, barring federal funds from supporting international organizations that promote or perform abortions.

Terminated a $15,900 HHS contract for fetal tissue research from aborted babies (September 24, 2018) and initiated an audit of such research to align with pro-life values.

Issued regulations protecting conscience rights for healthcare providers, allowing them to opt out of procedures like abortion due to religious or moral objections.

Became the first president to address the March for Life rally via satellite (January 19, 2018), signaling strong pro-life support.

International Religious Freedom:
Convened the first U.S.-led meeting at the United Nations (2019) to address global religious persecution, focusing on protecting persecuted Christians and other minorities.

Sanctioned Turkish officials (August 1, 2018) under Executive Order 13818, leading to the release of American pastor Andrew Brunson, detained for his Christian faith.

Placed Pakistan on a “Special Watch List” for religious freedom violations (January 2018) and sanctioned Iranian judges for targeting Christian and Baha’i minorities (December 2019).

Raised the issue of Christian persecution in Nigeria during a 2018 press conference with Nigeria’s president.




Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:40 pm to
Support for Israel:
Recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital (December 2017) and moved the U.S. Embassy there, actions praised by evangelicals like James Dobson for supporting a key ally and fulfilling biblical principles.

Brokered the Abraham Accords, normalizing relations between Israel and several Arab-Muslim nations (UAE, Bahrain, Sudan, Morocco), seen by some as advancing peace in a biblically significant region.

Recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights and supported Morocco’s claim to Western Sahara in exchange for normalizing ties with Israel.

Conscience Protections in Education and Health:
Under Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, revised policies to support religious schools and organizations, including expanding federal financial aid for religious orders and protecting faith-based campus groups at public universities.

HHS established a Conscience and Religious Freedom Division (January 2018) to enforce 25 statutory protections for healthcare workers with religious objections to certain procedures.

Issued a notice of violation to the University of Vermont Medical Center (August 28, 2018) for forcing a nurse to participate in an abortion against her conscience.

Reversal of Obama-Era Policies:
Revoked an Obama executive order (March 2017) that required federal contractors to have LGBT anti-discrimination policies, addressing evangelical concerns about potential conflicts with religious hiring practices.

Reversed Obama’s policy denying disaster aid to houses of worship, allowing churches to receive FEMA assistance during crises.

Engagement with Christian Leaders:
Hosted evangelical leaders frequently at the White House, including for events like the National Day of Prayer (May 2017), and spoke at Christian events like the Value Voters Summit (October 2017) and Faith and Freedom Coalition’s Road to Majority Conference (June 2017).

Gained strong evangelical support, with 81% of white evangelicals voting for him in 2016 and 59% of white evangelical Protestants saying his administration helped their interests.

Faith-Based Adoption and Foster Care:
Protected faith-based adoption and foster care providers, ensuring they could operate according to their religious beliefs without losing federal funding.

Houses of Worship as Essential Services (May 2020):
Declared houses of worship “essential services” during the COVID-19 pandemic, urging governors to allow churches to reopen, a move praised by Christian communities for prioritizing religious practice.

Early Second Term (2025) Christian Accomplishments

White House Faith Office (February 7, 2025):
Signed an executive order establishing the White House Faith Office, led by Paula White, to empower faith-based organizations, strengthen families, and protect religious liberty.

Task Force Against Anti-Christian Bias (February 6, 2025):
Created a task force, led by Attorney General Pam Bondi, to halt “anti-Christian targeting and discrimination” within federal agencies like the DOJ, IRS, and FBI. This was framed as a response to perceived persecution of Christians under prior administrations.

Pardons for Pro-Life Advocates (Early 2025):
Granted full pardons to 23 pro-life Americans, described as “unjustly persecuted” by the Biden administration, reinforcing his pro-life stance.

Executive Order on Child Protection (Early 2025):
Signed an order to protect children from “chemical and surgical mutilation,” aligning with evangelical concerns about gender-affirming care for minors. This led to some hospitals, like Chicago Lurie Children’s Hospital, pausing such procedures.

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:45 pm to
I don't want to pile on here, but every one of your bullet-points ("evidence that makes him the most Christian President ever) can be strongly challenged or refuted.



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Defense of Religious Liberty:

He signed an Executive Order on February 6, 2025, establishing the Task Force to Eradicate Anti-Christian Bias, aimed at eliminating perceived anti-Christian policies and practices in federal agencies.



Enough with "Task Forces" the EO decrees. Just instruct the DoJ to enforce existing Discrimination Laws on the books at Fed agencies AS WELL AS in the PRIVATE SECTOR.; just reinforce 4th Amendment rights and religious freedom from coercive ANY "health" mandates.

Trump can also demonstrate his support of Christianity by investigating the ongoing Church burnings epidemic.

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Pro-Life Policies:

Trump is often described as the most pro-life president in U.S. history by his supporters. He was the first sitting president to speak at the March for Life in 2020, signaling strong support for the anti-abortion movement.

He appointed three Supreme Court justices (Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett) who contributed to the 2022 Dobbs decision, overturning Roe v. Wade, a major victory for pro-life advocates.




Points given for attending the march For Life in 2020. Subtracting points for giving us ACB and the two other wishy-washy Jesuit loyalists (but why no Protestants SC judges?)

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Support for Israel:

Trump’s foreign policy decisions, such as recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, moving the U.S. embassy there, and brokering the Abraham Accords, were seen as supportive of biblical Israel, resonating with evangelical Christians who view Israel’s prominence as tied to eschatological beliefs.


No, , NONE of any of that "resonates" the vast majority of Bible-believing Christian Americans.

A complete bust.

Anti-Christian positions actually.

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Engagement with Evangelical Leaders:

Trump cultivated close relationships with evangelical leaders like Paula White, Robert Jeffress...Rabbi Jonathan Cahn.]



Oy. Smoke & Mirrors. Who advised him on this crew? They are Christian posers. Paula White is NOT close to being a "Christian." Another horrible Fail.

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Opposition to Perceived Anti-Christian Trends:

His 2024 campaign characterized his mission as a “righteous crusade” to restore America as “one nation under God,” resonating with Christian nationalists who see him as protecting America’s Christian heritage...

[Trump] criticized policies like the Biden administration’s 2024 declaration of Easter Sunday as “Transgender Day of Visibility.”



A beachball on a tee. But let's not forget that Pres. Trump still allowed the Woke and LBQT forces to amass momentum unfettered and run their insanity and perversions across America's schools without a DoJ to stop any of it at all during 2017-2020.

I see no evidence that Trump is promoting or advancing "Christian Nationalism." This time OR the last time he was office. Many are now seeing the “one nation under God” mantra for what it has always been -- ambiguous word-craft and NOT actually referring to God and Jesus Christ, but another "god"; the one that's openly symbolized and worshiped in Washington DC -- the Egyptian-Roman-Babylonian Sun "god".

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Judicial Appointments:

Trump appointed numerous conservative judges to federal courts, who are seen as likely to uphold religious liberty and traditional values.



Points Given

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Cultural Symbolism:

Trump’s public gestures, such as holding a Bible outside St. John’s Church in 2020 or selling special editions of the King James Bible in 2024, were seen by supporters as bold affirmations of Christian identity, even if controversial.

After surviving an assassination attempt in July 2024, Trump claimed divine intervention, a narrative that reinforced his image as a God-protected leader among some Christians




Bad performance art at best; blasphemy and mockery at worst.

Missed the mark badly. "Most Christian"? At best he isn't hostile -- at least, overtly. It will be actions that speak louder than words.

Overall, President Donald Trump is saying just enough good things recently for Christian MAGA loyalists to give him the benefit of doubt. Yet the White House Faith Office personnel is a joke. Just like last time.

We need to keep an eye out in the coming days and months for deeds over words.




Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:50 pm to
What? Jimmy Carter speaking from the grave? W. said something?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26763 posts
Posted on 4/20/25 at 8:24 pm to
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If you want to embarass yourself... carry on.


This dumb twat simped for Coke, defending tax dollars being used to buy sugary sodas for a nation of Type II rascal riders on welfare.

I don't think he's capable of being embarrassed.
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