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re: The Math just isn't there for Biden to have gotten 81 million individual votes in 2020

Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:45 am to
Posted by Stoffel
Member since Jul 2023
88 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 2:45 am to
quote:

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Given similarities of circumstances? Trump absolutely SMOKED Obama and Biden.



care to elaborate and give some figures?


I would also like to see some support for this statement.

As I believe it to be ludicrous and completely untethered to reality.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:33 am to
1. We shouldn't have to prove illegal/false votes after the fact. 2. The burden should be to prove votes cast were legal. They weren't.

how do you imagine proving any given vote was legal and retain anonymity?

what's your issue with proving a falsity after the fact?
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11179 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 6:52 am to
So, you’re saying the dems made 27 million fake ballots?
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2857 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:15 am to
shite thing and what you need to remember is a large portion of those votes were not for Biden they were against Trump!
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 7:23 am to
quote:

I would also like to see some support for this statement.

As I believe it to be ludicrous and completely untethered to reality.



Of course he won. No number of left wing 23 post alters will change that.

The alternative ix the country is THAT fricking stupid. You are, but I don't believe the country is.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6389 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:13 am to
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There is not one single scenario involving any sort or lebel of “evidence” or “proof” or anything else whatsoever, probably not even a personal appearance by Jesus Christ lol, that would be acceptable or satisfactory enough to make you concede anything. Literally nothing. It’s not a legal or procedural or evidentiary thing - it’s an ideological thing.


I asked for case citations of these alleged 50% win rate for rulings based on the merits, which have yet to be produced, not a visit from the Almighty. If Trump won court cases that's great!! As an old lady on a Wendy's commercial once said "where's the beef?" Provide the citations or at the least Fox News articles discussing these many legal triumphs that lead to votes being thrown out or proof that the election was rigged.

I'll go a step further than conceding and provide a link to the case that Trump won.

Donald J. Trump for President v. Boockvar and Cty. Bds. of Elections
LINK


For a second let's take a look at those in the election wasn't stolen camp from Trump's appointees Bill Barr, Kellyanne Conway, and Pat Cipollone (White House council) just to name a few.

Now let's look at the other side which included Rudy, Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell.

Gee I wonder which side is more believable
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:16 am to
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For a second let's take a look at those in the election wasn't stolen camp from Trump's appointees Bill Barr, Kellyanne Conway, and Pat Cipollone (White House council) just to name a few.

Now let's look at the other side which included Rudy, Mike Lindell and Sidney Powell.


Thanks for reminding me - I was going to research all of the well-known people who have rendered an opinion on whether it was stolen or not and make a thread showing who is in each camp.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
55751 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 8:23 am to
I noticed something really interesting with regard to the up vote/down vote ratio for this OP.

I've heard several polls cited on War Room where people were asked about the legitimacy of the 2020 GE, nearly 60% of Americans believe there was substantial election irregularities/shenanigans in the 2020 GE and just another over 20% of Americans believe the election was totally legitimate. The last vote tally for the OP is 297 up votes and 57 down votes.....pretty much right in line with the Rasmussen polls.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138984 posts
Posted on 7/17/23 at 9:11 am to
quote:

quote:

Given similarities of circumstances? Trump absolutely SMOKED Obama and Biden.
care to elaborate and give some figures?
Sure.

Obama's economy was consistently propped up by the Fed (both rates and QE). In contrast, Trump had to fight major Fed headwinds during his entire term, until CV19 hit.

Quantitative Tightening was one thing, but Fed rate increases in the face of Trump's historically low inflation numbers were nonsensical growth impediments. Yet, despite those impediments, Trump's economy through Jan 2020 either maintained glideslope or outperformed Obamanomics across the spectrum.

Given various Fed boosts which Obamanomics enjoyed, economic performance under Trump would have gone ballistic.

Examples:

LFPR declined dramatically under Obamanomics. That decline ceased and reversed when Trump took over.


Unemployment came down steadily.


Jobs and employment opportunities increased


All despite the Fed, e.g., Quantitative Easing for Obama; Quantitative Tightening for Trump.


and inexplicable Fed rate increases.


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