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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:47 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:47 am to somethingdifferent
Well said. Iran has been screaming "Death to America" for 100 years. Like Hamas they need to be eradicated. Every president for the past 50 years has said they can't have a nuke, and all have done nothing. Like the border. Reagan, the Bushes, Ovomit and Biden all said that and did nothing.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:48 am to TigerDoc
quote:
We've been living with the threat of Islamic terrorism for decades and will continue to live with it whatever happens in Iran.
Correct
And it's honestly not that much of a threat
When is the last time there was an attack of any significance? 911 was 24 years ago.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:48 am to somethingdifferent
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:48 am to bluewatersailor
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Iran has been screaming "Death to America" for 100 years
Nope
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:49 am to RollTide4547
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I'm looking at the information from the International Atomic Energy Agency that said Iran had uranium enriched to 60% when only 3-4% enriched is needed for nuclear power.
Yeah, we've heard this for decades. But its real this time..
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:52 am to Powerman
quote:Usually people from a particular country have aportion of that countries name in their name. People from Mexico are Mexicans, People from Canada are Canadians, people from Germany are Germans, people from Italy are Italians, etc.
Because that's what they are. It's the equivalent of calling Saudi Arabians Arabs
To be Persians, they would need to come from the country of Persia. Where exactly is the country of Persia today?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
Roger, they had yella cake and you know it. LOL
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:52 am to RollTide4547
quote:
o be Persians, they would need to come from the country of Persia.
I feel like y'all are getting even dumber.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So you think the International Atomic Energy Agency is lying?
Yeah, we've heard this for decades. But its real this time..
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:54 am to RollTide4547
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So you think the International Atomic Energy Agency is lying?
Probably.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:54 am to Esquire
Damn, that’s really bad.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Of course you would. I've never met a liberal that didn't think they were the smartest in the room. I've also never met one (present company included) that could be the smartest in the room, unless they were alone in that room.
I feel like y'all are getting even dumber.
Does Persia exist today or not?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:55 am to Pettifogger
quote:You are making my argument for me. Continue to fight these battles over there before they get here. And the argument isn't just about dollars, as you are implying
How do you think that turns out?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:56 am to RollTide4547
quote:
I've never met a liberal
Go look in a mirror.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Let's assume you are right and they only have enriched to 3-4% and they only want to enrich for nuclear power. Why would they have multiple enrichment sites and spend all of the money to build Fordow? Just work with your neighbors, prove to them that you only want nuclear power and spend the extra money (that you didn't spend on Fordow) on helping your citizens have better lives.
Probably.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 9:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Don't need to. I'm nothing like you. Ha ha.
Go look in a mirror.
Does Persia exist today or not? Weren't you talking about one side getting dumber earlier?
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 10:00 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I will ask yet again, what does this have to do with Islamic terrorism. Don't tell me it's an illusion or is "nuanced" because I have seen the effects with my own two eyes
No, its based on the constant lies the "Deep State" has fed us
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:07 am to somethingdifferent
I just finished the entirety of your OP and you keep asking this question....
Tell me what I said that's not factual or wrong
Well first of all, you've got alot of opinion in all that and you've made the exact same argument Israel and the Bush administration made for war after 9/11. But no matter. Let's stick to your "facts".....
What I think about Israel is very relevant. They're the only nuclear power in the region and they have zero interest in decreasing nuclear tensions.
Ok. One and two. You're correct. It's time now to attack and invade China. They're the last great enemy of the United States and have taken steps to subvert our way of life now for decades. Iran is nothing compared to China.
You "choose to fight abroad everytime", you say? Me too. Let's now go to war with China. Iran is annoyance compared to China. It's time to topple the Chinese regime.
Yes, you do want us to do "unscrupulous and immoral things", and we know this because you've made the exact same argument for war against Iran that you've made against Iraq.
In my lifetime, not one single American serviceman has died to protect my right to "speak out against foreign conflict". Not one. Now plenty have died to improve the profit margins of defense contractors. Plenty have died for a stock market in the green. Plenty have died for a booming economy. Plenty have died for a better job market. Plenty have died for my investment portfolio. But in my lifetime,, none have died for my freedoms.
Don't worry man. You're getting your war.
Tell me what I said that's not factual or wrong
Well first of all, you've got alot of opinion in all that and you've made the exact same argument Israel and the Bush administration made for war after 9/11. But no matter. Let's stick to your "facts".....
quote:
Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant. This has nothing to do with warmongers or neocons or warhawks or Zionism or any of that nonsense
Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They will attack anyone, anywhere at anytime, including civilians. Something that doesn't get discussed much is that many Iranians celebrate these attacks, especially on Americans/America. That sentiment needs to be pounded into submission with impunity. Don't talk to me about "innocent" people. If they were innocent, they would have rebelled against the Islamic regime. Iran seeking a nuclear weapon is just ADDED incentive to get the job done
Here are FACTS
1. America has real enemies. They are constantly working to destroy YOU and your way of life
2. You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive
I choose to fight abroad, every time, without question. And yes, I am fully aware of all the crap that is a consequence of this approach; nation building, regime toppling, CIA, boots on the ground, cost of conflict, funding insurrectionists and then they become an enemy, MIC, etc. Do I want us to do unscrupulous, immoral, unjust things? Absolutely not but it's all necessary evil to keep the conflict as far away from the US as possible
PROactive vs REactive
I guess people don't realize that the freedom to speak out against foreign conflict is protected by a proactive strategy, not a reactive strategy. Saying "stay out of it" is just sawing off the branch you are sitting on. It is unrealistic and naive
What I think about Israel is very relevant. They're the only nuclear power in the region and they have zero interest in decreasing nuclear tensions.
Ok. One and two. You're correct. It's time now to attack and invade China. They're the last great enemy of the United States and have taken steps to subvert our way of life now for decades. Iran is nothing compared to China.
You "choose to fight abroad everytime", you say? Me too. Let's now go to war with China. Iran is annoyance compared to China. It's time to topple the Chinese regime.
Yes, you do want us to do "unscrupulous and immoral things", and we know this because you've made the exact same argument for war against Iran that you've made against Iraq.
In my lifetime, not one single American serviceman has died to protect my right to "speak out against foreign conflict". Not one. Now plenty have died to improve the profit margins of defense contractors. Plenty have died for a stock market in the green. Plenty have died for a booming economy. Plenty have died for a better job market. Plenty have died for my investment portfolio. But in my lifetime,, none have died for my freedoms.
Don't worry man. You're getting your war.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:09 am to somethingdifferent
quote:wait, wtf?
Islamic terrorism is NOT "nuanced."
jfc
Ok, I get it now. You are an idiot. Another attempt of mine to engage in intellectual discourse with an unarmed man
I wonder why I try, sometimes.
Let me guess, they hate us for our freedom?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 10:09 am to somethingdifferent
Then by that definition…. The USA is also a terrorist state
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