re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing

Yup.

Here is what these clowns don't realize.

We could do EVERYTHING they wanted. Cut off Israel, get out of Middle East. WOuldn't matter. They hate us because their religion commands them to hate us. They see western freedom as the opposite of their creed. They see it as immoral and adulterous.

Europe has not been as pro-Israel as we have been. Didn't protect it from terrorism and now the onslaught of unfettered muslim migration. Suddenly terrorist attacks and stabbing attacks go up. Car attacks.

The Imam's hate us. Period. With or without Israel.

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Whatever you think about Israel is irrelevant

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100% this.

2 things can be true at the same time. Israel may be this or that but anyone who knows the history of Iran ought to see they are the bad guys. Period.

Even if that doesn’t make Israel pure and clean. Stay focused.

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Roaad

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I asked you a question and you haven't answered it

Any information/disinformation about Iranian nuclear capabilities is irrelevant

Sentiments about Israel are irrelevant

Campaign promises of "no new wars" are irrelevant

Do we have enemies who want to destroy us? It's a yes or no question.

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And Israel is notorious for hurling bombs into civilian populations. They've done so recently in Gaza and in Lebanon.

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If you hide your military assets behind and/or underneath civilian locations that can happen. Was reported that Israel warned the citizens if Iran before the attacks began.

I watched the video of the missile hitting apartment buildings in Israel.

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you are using Zionist media sources for your claims.

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The lefty media here is supporting President Trump now?

I fail to understand why you jew haters here are so rabid, when you are much more likely to be harmed by a 13%'er in America.

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So you're basing your entire objection on casual breakfast table, half awake naive musings

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No, its based on the constant lies the "Deep State" has fed us.

You remember the deep state, right? Its something you folks used to pretend to hate.

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Doubting something and stating it as a fact is 2 different things.

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So you either trust the Deep State, or you're doubting the accuracy of their reports.

Which is it?

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In simple terms, the costs of war are obvious to all.

But there is a significant cost to inaction as well.

In this case, the cost is arming a suicidal enemy with the power to kill tens of millions of people with a single bomb (or hold the world hostage with it)

We are at a moment of choosing which door to walk thru. Once Iran has a nuke, we are all at their mercy because they will use it.

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Here are the nine countries with nuclear weapons. Russia, The United States, China, France, The United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.

The emboldened countries, in their own way are just as socially and culturally primitive and barbaric as Iran.

The concern we all have is that Iran will nuke Israel, the same way Pakistan will nuke India, and India will nuke Pakistan, and North Korea will nuke South Korea, and Israel will nuke Iran.

Just look at all the nuclear war those cavemen have caused. Countless millions have died because of them.

In the history of mankind, up to 250,000 people have been killed by nuclear weapons. Not one of those deaths were a result of those emboldened countries.

Now I don't endorse Iran having nuclear weapons, but I don't endorse Israel having them either. Even without nuclear weapons, Israel is the biggest baddest motherfricker in the region, and they have the United States on speed dial. What could Israel possibly need with nuclear weapons? What's Israel's responsibility in decreasing nuclear tensions in the region? Why is Israel not being pressured to enter into a non-proliferation agreement?

Those are rhetorical questions. Most of us know why, and it's not because they live under constant threat.

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Israel is notorious for hurling bombs into civilian populations

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Examples?

Are you including the civilian targets that house terrorists and Israel dropping leaflets to warn the civilians to get out of harm's way?