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re: The level of naivety regarding the Iranian conflict is disturbing
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:05 pm to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:05 pm to Bunk Moreland
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You can't have it both ways -- that (a) they're all a bunch of savages, and (b) they are on the verge of a great country with different leadership. I don't think Persians are savages.
persians are straight up savages.
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Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:10 pm to somethingdifferent
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Naive, stupid and false
quote:Founded by Muhammed in the 600's
How about you start with anything you know about Islam?
quote:State a fact, and I will tell tell you
Tell me what I said that's not factual genius
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stupid name calling
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stupid
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genius
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halfwitted
quote:For which religion? Christians created the term to refer to non-believers. . .which you will claim to have always known'
Do you know who the infidels are?
Probably in your "post-graduate" studies :lol:
This post was edited on 6/25/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:22 pm to somethingdifferent
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Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism
So is Israel.
Your brain is fried and all you can do is repeat what you are fed
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:28 pm to Jack Carter
So you put Iran and Israel in the exact same category when it comes to terrorism and the concept of state sponsored terrorism? And how would that not be described in the exact same terms as “spoon fed” as well? Just out of curiosity. What makes one spoon fed, but the other not?
Posted on 6/26/25 at 9:44 am to somethingdifferent
I was mistaken. Someone else replied and used the animal comment. The point I was implying is that Jihadists/radicals do not equal the whole populace of Iran and that any revolution there short of a military coup would be untenable.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:50 pm to Roaad
I noticed you glossed right over that 9/11 comment. Why is that?
You seem like you are the emotional equivalent of a junior high kid
Question - why can't you contribute something of substance? If you are ignorant, just say so. It will save everyone some time.
quote:YOU'RE COOKIN NOW
Founded by Muhammed in the 600's
quote:Read the OP
State a fact, and I will tell tell you
quote:Islam genius
For which religion?
quote:I never said anything about post graduate
Probably in your "post-graduate" studies
You seem like you are the emotional equivalent of a junior high kid
Question - why can't you contribute something of substance? If you are ignorant, just say so. It will save everyone some time.
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:52 pm to Jack Carter
quote:Israel has organized and funded terrorism that has attacked america? That's interesting. Do you have substantiation for that claim?
So is Israel
Does Israel sponsor terrorism just for funsies or in response to something else? What's their motive?
quote:Look who's talking
Your brain is fried and all you can do is repeat what you are fed
YET ANOTHER PERSON who won't deal with the facts in the OP
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:53 pm to Pragmatist2025
quote:Not our problem. Terrorists having a nuclear weapon - OUR PROBLEM
any revolution there short of a military coup would be untenable
Posted on 6/27/25 at 11:57 pm to somethingdifferent
This thread has got to be some kind of PB record - 25 pages of pearl clutchers avoiding facts like the plague
FACT - Iran is a sponsor of terrorism
FACT - Islamic terrorists want to destroy America and have attacked us on our soil
FACT - Islamic terrorists potentially having access to a nuclear weapon or three is beyond horrifying and cannot be allowed
FACT - NONE of the above points have anything to do with Israel
FACT - Iran is a sponsor of terrorism
FACT - Islamic terrorists want to destroy America and have attacked us on our soil
FACT - Islamic terrorists potentially having access to a nuclear weapon or three is beyond horrifying and cannot be allowed
FACT - NONE of the above points have anything to do with Israel
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:49 am to somethingdifferent
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Terrorists having a nuclear weapon - OUR PROBLEM
Therein lies the discussion…the solution to that problem. The complexity of it is why only certain parts of it are dealt with it at any different times in my opinion.
Any problems that the US faces that aligns with the interests of Israel will be dealt with bilaterally as allies. Outside of that scope is where the discussion changes. All of their interests do not align with ours nor should the US be expected to act as they were.
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:51 pm to Pragmatist2025
quote:Well said. In regards to Islamic terrorism, our interests align with Israel. I absolutely know that Israel is not perfect and our best interests are not their top priority. However, in regards to terrorism, that is irrelevant.
Any problems that the US faces that aligns with the interests of Israel will be dealt with bilaterally as allies. Outside of that scope is where the discussion changes. All of their interests do not align with ours nor should the US be expected to act as they were.
It's just sad that there are so many knuckleheads in this country that think the bombing was becase Israel is leading us around by the nose. Nevermind that Trump actively lobbied for Israel to push the brakes on their attacks
mUh zIoNiSm!!
And then there are people like Roaad who say that terrorists "aren't that much of a threat" to us. Yeah let's bury our head in the sand regarding the people who spend every waking hour scheming to torture and kill people while their handlers are ever so close to having a nuclear freaking bomb
Posted on 6/29/25 at 11:14 pm to somethingdifferent
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You either fight these fights on American soil or abroad. You don't get the option of "staying out of it." Eventually, these conflicts will reach domestic shores if we are passive
Can't believe anyone actually thinks this. If anything we're just increasing the likelihood of a terrorist attack as retaliation.
Posted on 6/30/25 at 9:53 am to Powerman
quote:Unbelievable. The OP states precisely how to not be naive and then people continue to respond with naive takes.
Can't believe anyone actually thinks this
quote:And then stupid takes are posted on page 25 after having been rebutted multiple times.
If anything we're just increasing the likelihood of a terrorist attack as retaliation
THEY ALREADY HATED US BEFORE. Our attack is merely an attempt to set them back from an even worse attack on us
It's like these people think the sand jockeys were just minding their own business for a few hundred years and then big ole evil america woke them from their slumber and NOW they're mad as hornets.
If you're ignorant about Islamic terrorism, why would you post something stupid about it. Just get educated or sit this one out
Posted on 6/30/25 at 10:03 am to somethingdifferent
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I choose to fight abroad, every time, without question.
That is why we have a Navy and forward bases.
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It is unrealistic and naive
Yes, they are unrealistic and naive.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:44 pm to davyjones
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So you put Iran and Israel in the exact same category when it comes to terrorism and the concept of state sponsored terrorism?
No. Israel has a much wider global range of terrorism
Posted on 7/2/25 at 11:45 pm to somethingdifferent
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Israel has organized and funded terrorism that has attacked america?
Iran hasn't done that
Posted on 7/3/25 at 1:04 am to Jack Carter
The ole' "death to america" is just a fun and mostly peaceful thing to say stance. Intelligence level infinity - achieved
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:06 am to somethingdifferent
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Here are FACTS
TLDR summary:
Posted on 7/3/25 at 6:49 am to Toomer Deplorable
Wonder if OP was ok with just the bombing and then moving on? Wanted full on war and regime change. Was President Trump being naive?
Posted on 7/3/25 at 2:47 pm to Jack Carter
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So you put Iran and Israel in the exact same category when it comes to terrorism and the concept of state sponsored terrorism?
No. Israel has a much wider global range of terrorism
In my wildest dreams I would never put Isreal and Iran in the same category of terrorism. But to each his own, we’ll just agree to disagree, no big deal.
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