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The immigration issue is so obviously fabricated by outside powers, I can't respect anyone

Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted by theliontamer
Chicago
Member since Nov 2015
2710 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:25 pm
that pretends to want open borders.

That literally is not how anything works, anywhere, in the history of the world.

If something is desirable, you either have to pay more for it, or wait your turn. European immigrants from 200 years ago came to an undeveloped country and poured their blood, sweat, and tears to make it nice. Now that it is nice, we want to pretend that other people can come here at the same entrance price? GTFO.


Even a nice restaurant requires reservations and wait times. You can go to the casual lowly rated restaurant down the street for immediate service. Neighborhoods, you invest in your neighborhood and it becomes nice, guess what, the home prices go up and it is not as easy to live there anymore. These are simple guidelines of civilization. If you want something nice, you have to build and maintain it.

You want to come here to make money, no shyt. You want to force your way in and demand charity from a private group of people. Because that's what this is, it's exploiting the charitable systems set in place for citizens of the United States. You've already exploited the charitable systems we've delivered to your countries, but that wasn't enough. It's disgusting what the politicians are allowing to happen in this world. I encourage every democrat voter to house migrants in their own homes or spend their own money to go make central america nicer. They of course will never do that. They want to force you to do it.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 2:27 pm
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4311 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:27 pm to
You will get it with the Left
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10825 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:29 pm to
The left wants to import unskilled migrants that will forever vote democrat for forever free benefits.

The country will collapse at some point because of this.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
4311 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:32 pm to
Let it, I am sick of the Left and the “independents and moderates” that sway with the wind. They need to suffer the consequences of their votes
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9788 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:37 pm to
When you have entire states (like California) and entire business sectors that have for decades...an entire life time for some illegals, that encourage them to come here, provide employment, public benefits, and a federal government that up until this point really wasnt concerned with arresting non violent illegals or enforcing current immigration laws.... its hard for me to assign blame for some poor migrant trying to escape poverty in their own country, That not to say I support open borders. Just that I put most of the blame for the current immigration problems at the feet of our leadership... not the immigrants.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9631 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:45 pm to
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They need to suffer the consequences of their votes


You think only those that voted for it will suffer?

Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3589 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:17 pm to
We did not have a dispute between political parties until Obama came in and exploited our constitutional form of government. It was Obama that wanted to bring the ME chaos inside the US so that Americans would change their views of ME culture. Obama did not like that the US was insulated by oceans on two sides and civilized countries to the north and south.

Obama brought in Muslim Brotherhood and gave them a seat in his administration. Obama brought in Muslims from the ME and inserted them into midsize communities in the heartland with the whole intent to break down the American patriotic heartbeat.

Then it was Obama and his gang that started lawfare to attack the constitution and every American that relied on the constitution and our justice system to safeguard the United States. Activist judges have allowed lawfare infused chaos into our legal system knowing that it is impossible to fight every illegal action through to the SCOTUS. All those little wins that lawfare receives are the stepping stones for the next lawfare act to slowly breakdown the constitution, not from a legal position but from a made up social justice popularity system of the uneducated.
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 3:18 pm
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
33023 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
33023 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 3:57 pm to
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You think only those that voted for it will suffer?
and that’s the real issue…
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1493 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:04 pm to
Eh business leaders have wanted immigration for the last 50 years because they want a source of cheap labor and to break the backs of the unions. The Dem leadership is every bit as pro big business as the republicans and they saw the added opportunity to add to their voting numbers. The unions are broken. Automation and AI are going to replace enough jobs that labor’s bargaining power isn’t coming back, and so the immigrants are being rounded up and sent back. I honestly feel sorry for them. Some of them have been here and working for 20 to 30 years or came here legally and had the rules changed on them. They weren’t the ones who brought them here or turned a blind eye to them skirting the laws, and yet they are the only ones who will be punished for it. We need to get rid of them but I don’t really feel the glee about it some do
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1589 posts
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:19 pm to
Hart Celler Act / NAFTA / Unchecked corporate and govt greed

We are in the logical outcome of these things...

We needed Pat Robertson. And to listen to Ross Perot.

Immigration is War!
This post was edited on 10/29/26 at 4:20 pm
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