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re: The House just voted to move forward with approving President Trump’s first round of DOGE
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:55 pm to Lg
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:55 pm to Lg
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Did I see somewhere that Massie was a "NO" vote on this?
Seriously? It’s literally cutting spending no strings attached
What’s his reasoning?
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:58 pm to deltaland
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Seriously? It’s literally cutting spending no strings attached
What’s his reasoning?
His reasoning is that it adopts HR4 which updates language in the BBB. HR4 is just a list of "replace this text with that text" changes, most of which are clearly innocuous.
The ones that could be something all cross-reference the BBB, which Massie did not link. The fact that Massie didn't point out anything specifically insipid but merely went with the general complaint of "they're changing it" tells me that Massie is just desperately trying to find any reason to vote against the spending cuts he constantly cries about.
If there was something there that would piss off conservatives enough to vote against the spending cuts, especially those conservatives already against Trump, he would have mentioned it.
If Massie ever did get his cuts, he would become irrelevant. It's the same reason that people like Al Sharpton don't actually want racism to end.
I recall some people saying that Massie would find an excuse to vote against spending cuts. It appears they were right. Again.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to FLTech
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to Kjnstkmn
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to FLTech
Stopped picking up pennies years ago.
They'll be taken out of circulation soon.
They'll be taken out of circulation soon.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:10 pm to Penrod
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Thing is, PBS and NPR were actually worthwhile in the 80s and 90s.
quote:The Democratic Party has changed beyond recognition since the 80’s-90’s PBS/NPR jump in on the spiral of the party and they are now pure shite like the Democrats.
It was good reporting, but it was always Democrat Party propaganda.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:13 am to the808bass
I believe Russ Vought said they had nine of these lined up and they would continually bring them to a vote and force the dems to continually vote against spending cuts, right up to the mid terms.
So massie attaches the amendments to the bill, it looks like just cleaning up a lot of verbage. Why doesnt he simply state what he is against rather than complaining "it changes the bill after the fact" and then his proof is the vague amendment referencing two dozen references to a 1000 page bill.
I understand he and Rand's objections, but if you take their stance YOU GET NO CUTS, no Trump agenda, nothing. In the words of the Stones, you dont always get what you want, you get what you need, so compromise and get off your high horse.
So massie attaches the amendments to the bill, it looks like just cleaning up a lot of verbage. Why doesnt he simply state what he is against rather than complaining "it changes the bill after the fact" and then his proof is the vague amendment referencing two dozen references to a 1000 page bill.
I understand he and Rand's objections, but if you take their stance YOU GET NO CUTS, no Trump agenda, nothing. In the words of the Stones, you dont always get what you want, you get what you need, so compromise and get off your high horse.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:59 am to FLTech
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They have said for the last 6 months that the ONLY thing they were focused on was the Big Beautiful Bill - After they get that passed then they were immediately getting onto the DOGE cuts and all of his EO's and so far, they are on the schedule that they have been promising for the past 6 months
I'm perfectly fine with HOW they are proceeding, it's the added "sneaky" shite they try to slip in the packages hoping nobody will notice.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:26 am to stout
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We just went from bailing the water out of a sinking ship using a thimble to a shot glass
Just like the BBB, it's a starting point to build momentum. IMHO
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:28 am to FLTech
I bet it matters to those swamp creatures who would've gotten that laundered $9B.
frick 'em.
frick 'em.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:48 am to FLTech
Good news on this is that a Recission package only needs a simple majority in both house and Senate, and the senate cannot Filibuster
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Simple Majority Vote:
In the Senate, a rescission bill can pass with a simple majority vote, bypassing the usual filibuster rules.
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The congressional rescission process allows Congress and the President to cancel previously appropriated funds, effectively freezing spending that has not yet been obligated. This process is governed by the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (ICA). The President can propose rescissions, but Congress has the final say, and they must act on a rescission proposal within 45 days of continuous session.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:31 am to Lg
This always happens with reconciliation bills.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:40 am to FLTech
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This always happens with reconciliation bills.
But it doesn't need to. Why can't they just put a bare bones bill forward with JUST what they want to cut? No frills.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:43 am to Lg
Because they wouldn’t get the votes needed
With a bill like the BBB - they only need 50 votes where is they did each individual vote, it requires 60 votes so people try to squeeze in as much as they can because that’s what the promised their constituents
Having said that, the bill is still cutting $1.6 Trillion - most in history
With a bill like the BBB - they only need 50 votes where is they did each individual vote, it requires 60 votes so people try to squeeze in as much as they can because that’s what the promised their constituents
Having said that, the bill is still cutting $1.6 Trillion - most in history
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