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re: The House just voted to move forward with approving President Trump’s first round of DOGE

Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:55 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
97208 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Did I see somewhere that Massie was a "NO" vote on this?


Seriously? It’s literally cutting spending no strings attached

What’s his reasoning?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
9371 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:58 pm to
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Seriously? It’s literally cutting spending no strings attached

What’s his reasoning?


His reasoning is that it adopts HR4 which updates language in the BBB. HR4 is just a list of "replace this text with that text" changes, most of which are clearly innocuous.

The ones that could be something all cross-reference the BBB, which Massie did not link. The fact that Massie didn't point out anything specifically insipid but merely went with the general complaint of "they're changing it" tells me that Massie is just desperately trying to find any reason to vote against the spending cuts he constantly cries about.

If there was something there that would piss off conservatives enough to vote against the spending cuts, especially those conservatives already against Trump, he would have mentioned it.

If Massie ever did get his cuts, he would become irrelevant. It's the same reason that people like Al Sharpton don't actually want racism to end.

I recall some people saying that Massie would find an excuse to vote against spending cuts. It appears they were right. Again.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
16594 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
11646 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:02 pm to
Stopped picking up pennies years ago.

They'll be taken out of circulation soon.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31257 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:10 pm to
quote:

Thing is, PBS and NPR were actually worthwhile in the 80s and 90s.
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It was good reporting, but it was always Democrat Party propaganda.
The Democratic Party has changed beyond recognition since the 80’s-90’s PBS/NPR jump in on the spiral of the party and they are now pure shite like the Democrats.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
17107 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:13 am to
I believe Russ Vought said they had nine of these lined up and they would continually bring them to a vote and force the dems to continually vote against spending cuts, right up to the mid terms.

So massie attaches the amendments to the bill, it looks like just cleaning up a lot of verbage. Why doesnt he simply state what he is against rather than complaining "it changes the bill after the fact" and then his proof is the vague amendment referencing two dozen references to a 1000 page bill.

I understand he and Rand's objections, but if you take their stance YOU GET NO CUTS, no Trump agenda, nothing. In the words of the Stones, you dont always get what you want, you get what you need, so compromise and get off your high horse.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
7621 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:16 am to
We spend 9.3B every 2 days
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
1904 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:17 am to
Fox News
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7918 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:59 am to
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They have said for the last 6 months that the ONLY thing they were focused on was the Big Beautiful Bill - After they get that passed then they were immediately getting onto the DOGE cuts and all of his EO's and so far, they are on the schedule that they have been promising for the past 6 months


I'm perfectly fine with HOW they are proceeding, it's the added "sneaky" shite they try to slip in the packages hoping nobody will notice.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18727 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:26 am to
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We just went from bailing the water out of a sinking ship using a thimble to a shot glass



Just like the BBB, it's a starting point to build momentum. IMHO
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
70976 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:28 am to
I bet it matters to those swamp creatures who would've gotten that laundered $9B.

frick 'em.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13523 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 7:48 am to
Good news on this is that a Recission package only needs a simple majority in both house and Senate, and the senate cannot Filibuster

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Simple Majority Vote:
In the Senate, a rescission bill can pass with a simple majority vote, bypassing the usual filibuster rules.


quote:

The congressional rescission process allows Congress and the President to cancel previously appropriated funds, effectively freezing spending that has not yet been obligated. This process is governed by the Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (ICA). The President can propose rescissions, but Congress has the final say, and they must act on a rescission proposal within 45 days of continuous session.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
22062 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:31 am to
This always happens with reconciliation bills.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88280 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:33 am to
Massie is such a loser
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
7918 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:40 am to
quote:

This always happens with reconciliation bills.


But it doesn't need to. Why can't they just put a bare bones bill forward with JUST what they want to cut? No frills.
Posted by FLTech
the A
Member since Sep 2017
22062 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:43 am to
Because they wouldn’t get the votes needed

With a bill like the BBB - they only need 50 votes where is they did each individual vote, it requires 60 votes so people try to squeeze in as much as they can because that’s what the promised their constituents

Having said that, the bill is still cutting $1.6 Trillion - most in history
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