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re: The Horseshoe Theory

Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:58 am to
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Both sides of the same authoritarian coin.



And yet had very distinctive ideological differences.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14454 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:58 am to
You can move that national socialism over there with Marxism because they are both far left ideologies.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48171 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:59 am to
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Political ideology is a straight line based on govt control v. individual freedom.

The extreme left is communism (now called the US Democrat party), monarchy, dictatorships, etc.
On the extreme right is anarchy. The rioters are not anarchists. They're communists.
Anarchy = the American pioneers who traveled west.
There was no law. Anarchy =/= Chaos.


/\ THIS /\ I understand and agree with.
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6803 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:59 am to
Because you’re a smartass idiot on the Tiger Rant and the poliboard, but you never want to actually jump out there and say anything specific.

I will very gladly break my foot off in your arse in an economic/history/ideology debate. So again, kindly tell me A. what I’m wrong about and B. why I’m wrong if you’re so confident. I actually understand what I’m talking about and you’re some jerkoff lawyer with no education or knowledge on what you’re trying to be condescending about.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:59 am to
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You can move that national socialism over there with Marxism because they are both far left ideologies.



Oh boy.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
80304 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:02 am to
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Forced confiscation and redistribution of wealth will never be a virtue.


Absolutely.


It breaks 2 commandments.


Theft

and

Coveting
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:02 am to
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A lot to dissect on this graphic. I am not sure I agree with everything represented here, but I do tend to think people on the fringes have a lot more in common with each other than they do with centrists. What says the poliboard?
Hank says that this "theory" expends WAY too much effort attempting to analyze politics on a linear (on-dimensional) scale, when the more-useful approach is to just add another dimension to the analysis.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:03 am to
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Because you’re a smartass idiot on the Tiger Rant and the poliboard,


OK.

quote:

ut you never want to actually jump out there and say anything specific.



Well, that's just not true.

quote:

I will very gladly break my foot off in your arse in an economic/history/ideology debate.


Oh, I'm sure. I can tell you're all about nuance and thoughtful analysis.

quote:

I actually understand what I’m talking about and you’re some jerkoff lawyer with no education or knowledge on what you’re trying to be condescending about.



What's your educational background?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66841 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:03 am to
The left in this country is always a coalition because individually their ideas can’t win. The modern Dems are made up of Fascist, communist, Marxist and radical Islamist. They can unite for a single issue and they’re partnered in their hate for the west and free will but even if they win they’ll be at each other’s throats very soon. We’ve already seen this happening within the party.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41527 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:04 am to
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You can move that national socialism over there with Marxism because they are both far left ideologies.

quote:

Oh boy




Here’s the thing, you can get your rocks off laughing at “uneducated troglodytes” that think communist and fascists are the same and never contribute to the discussion, but what you fail to see through your condescension is that both communism and fascism result in the EXACT SAME end for the populace. Strict, unyielding, heartless control and no freedom.

So yes, look down your nose at those who are incorrect in the theory and continue to ignore their accuracy in what actually happens when these theories are practiced.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20267 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:04 am to
Which one of those is leavemethefrickaloneism?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41527 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:06 am to
Anarchist according to that chart. Although communism and anarchism sprout from the same seed, removal of power from the elite and distribution of it to the mass.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66841 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:06 am to
None, they’re all parasitic ideologies
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6803 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:07 am to
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What's your educational background?

Economics and history. Yours? Judging by the fact that you don’t understand simple left/right wing economics or the fact that economic and social ideologies exist on different axes, not history or economics. I guess it must be nice to be such an idiot that you don’t know you’re making an arse out of yourself
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:08 am to
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Here’s the thing, you can get your rocks off laughing at “uneducated troglodytes” that think communist and fascists are the same and never contribute to the discussion, but what you fail to see through your condescension is that both communism and fascism result in the EXACT SAME end for the populace. Strict, unyielding, heartless control and no freedom.

So yes, look down your nose at those who are incorrect in the theory and continue to ignore their accuracy in what actually happens when these theories are practiced.


Well, I'd disagree with the same results thought, but what's wrong with pointing out the inaccuracy?
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7728 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:09 am to
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I have always rejected the circle (didn't know they called it a horseshoe these days.

Political ideology is a straight line based on govt control v. individual freedom.


I think the primary point of the illustration is to show the extremes on both sides have more in common with themselves than they do with centrists.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:11 am to
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Economics and history.


I'm sure we've all studied economics and history to some extent or another. You're casting aspersions on my education. How much did you study these subjects? Where? Do you have one or more degrees?

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he fact that you don’t understand simple left/right wing economics or the fact that economic and social ideologies exist on different axes, not history or economics.


What makes you think I don't understand these matters?

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I guess it must be nice to be such an idiot that you don’t know you’re making an arse out of yourself


Again, why am I an idiot? Because I disagree with your characterization?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66841 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:12 am to
His educational background is Twitter
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:14 am to
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His educational background is Twitter


Sick burn, brah.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41527 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:14 am to
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Well, I'd disagree with the same results thought, but what's wrong with pointing out the inaccuracy?


Expound upon your disagreement. Pointing out the inaccuracy without detailing why it’s wrong is simply complaining and is a waste of everyone’s time.
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