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re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:57 pm to MastrShake
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:57 pm to MastrShake
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Texas A&M University historian and author
100 years from now some "historian" will be telling his students that OJ didn't kill his wife.
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:57 pm to MastrShake
It doesn't matter if it's true. Trump is sending a message, and at the same time causing folks to educate themselves. So, not only is Trump taking a stance, but we are also educating ourselves in the process. I call that a win-win.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:58 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
I'm proud that he isn't afraid to talk bluntly about Islamic terrorism. I don't even care if the tale is true. The point stands that we need to take a hard-nosed approach to terrorists.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:58 pm to DAbully
So the portion of the article that cites a letter saying this is not true then?
What other sources do the historians cite?
The article given is complete BS and dishonest otherwise. The reasons they provide hardly contain fact but rather opinion.
What other sources do the historians cite?
The article given is complete BS and dishonest otherwise. The reasons they provide hardly contain fact but rather opinion.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:58 pm to Catman88
quote:is that how you think things should work, not just in general but with the President of the United States in particular?
How do you know it didnt happen
so if i tweet that your wife sucked me off, and i identify her by name, should everyone now proceed as if it its true, even though theres no evidence for it, until the time that you can somehow prove that she didn't?
is that the standard now, in your opinion?
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There is no evidence that Pershing himself committed these acts, there is nothing said about the use of 50 bullets dipped in pig’s blood, and most important, there is no evidence to support Trump’s claim that this tactic was effective in stopping violence -- or that it would provide a useful policy today.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:58 pm to MastrShake
Read your own fricking story
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:00 pm to asurob1
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More concerned about the leader of our nation politicizing the deaths of 13 people for his own gains.
If he was say oh...I don't know...Obama you'd be bitching about it.
In other words, you're pissed because Obama is no longer POTUS and the "Nazi lover" Donald Trump is.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:00 pm to MastrShake
So if we didnt hear about Abu Ghraib it would be documented for historians 100 years from now?
What if one of the soldiers there in 40 years wrote a letter saying it did happen?
Prove the letter does not exist and or the soldier that wrote it never served under him. Saying its not true because it was not in an official document is BS.
What if one of the soldiers there in 40 years wrote a letter saying it did happen?
Prove the letter does not exist and or the soldier that wrote it never served under him. Saying its not true because it was not in an official document is BS.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:03 pm to GumboPot
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I don't see anything about pigs in Trump's tweet.
Ding ding ding
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:05 pm to Jyrdis
quote:astounding how many people here proudly admit that the truth has no place in their world view.
It doesn't matter if it's true.
quote:and when they do, they learn that trump is using an urban legend that never actually happened as a type of evidence to justify his beliefs.
Trump is sending a message, and at the same time causing folks to educate themselves.
quote:our President is a dolt and proved it again today. that is not win-win.
I call that a win-win.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:06 pm to MastrShake
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Looks like you listened to his tweet and read up on General Pershing and his methods of dealing with terrorists. It also looks like Trump started a dialogue about how similar terrorist factions have been dealt with in the past.
But because trump referred to what was pretty plainly a folk-lore type story your panties got in a wad and you use this to claim liar, doofus, et.,.
If he got people like you to read and share it because they object to the folk-lore type story he referred to then maybe some folks will have been educated about successful methods of dealing with terror groups. Terrible, bad, sad guy!!!!
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:07 pm to MastrShake
2098 Texas A&M American History Professor:
Today class, we'll be covering the events of 9/11/2001 when George Bush destroyed the World Trade Center and blamed it on our beloved Muslim brethren.
Today class, we'll be covering the events of 9/11/2001 when George Bush destroyed the World Trade Center and blamed it on our beloved Muslim brethren.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:08 pm to hawgfaninc
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Ding ding ding
He stood on a podium and said General Pershing had his men dip 49 bullets in pig's blood and execute Muslims. Then let one live to tell the rest. Trump said it as though it was 100% fact. It's dumb to say that and is be surprised if these generals who are all students of history aren't losing their minds right now. Truth is they are because they know he's a moron and they are putting their country first in this case. They are staying on because they are our last line of defense from Trump . Trump is a puppet and has done nothing of value ever in his life. He was a check book as a real estate mogul and he's a figure head now.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:10 pm to MastrShake
The facts are:
None of us were there
Apparently someone that was there wrote an letter years later saying he did something with pigs blood
Historians say the evidence is thin. (Notice they dont say doesnt exist)
Historians say he wouldn't do such a thing based on opinion of others he knew (that was not present)
Fill us in what other facts exist?
Any fact source would normally mark that as inconclusive or unlikely. Not factually false...
What other evidence exists? This is your thread cite your work.
None of us were there
Apparently someone that was there wrote an letter years later saying he did something with pigs blood
Historians say the evidence is thin. (Notice they dont say doesnt exist)
Historians say he wouldn't do such a thing based on opinion of others he knew (that was not present)
Fill us in what other facts exist?
Any fact source would normally mark that as inconclusive or unlikely. Not factually false...
What other evidence exists? This is your thread cite your work.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:10 pm to asurob1
True or not True this Pershing dude sounds like a bad arse just like DJT
I would love to see this as part of our law but I'm sure the pussies on the left would say it's to violent against the poor muslims and we would not want to offend the poor muslims now would we after all they are such peaceful people
Make
America
Pershing
Again
Bitches !
I would love to see this as part of our law but I'm sure the pussies on the left would say it's to violent against the poor muslims and we would not want to offend the poor muslims now would we after all they are such peaceful people
Make
America
Pershing
Again
Bitches !
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:11 pm to DAbully
I'll actually say Trump has done some good. He's put real men in charge to run this country bc he knew he couldn't. Now they have to swallow their pride and die a little inside everyday knowing they work for the biggest fricking idiot that has ever held a position of power.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:13 pm to DAbully
Yea. Because the can keep your dr,you didnt build that i went to 52 state genius before him was specfrickkingtacular.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:13 pm to MastrShake
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astounding how many people here proudly admit that the truth has no place in their world view.
So, you take the first thing I say and completely misrepresent my entire statement. It doesn't matter if it's true because Trump saying that will cause people to actually research and find the truth.
quote:
and when they do, they learn that trump is using an urban legend that never actually happened as a type of evidence to justify his beliefs.
His beliefs on ISIS have been well-known for quite some time. People who don't know them either 1) haven't paid attention to him at all or 2) don't care to listen to him and outright refute anything he says because they despise him. In addition, using an urban legend to "justify" his believes is a straw man.
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our President is a dolt and proved it again today. that is not win-win.
See point 2 above.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:15 pm to DAbully
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He stood on a podium and said General Pershing had his men dip 49 bullets in pig's blood and execute Muslims. Then let one live to tell the rest. Trump said it as though it was 100% fact. It's dumb to say that and is be surprised if these generals who are all students of history aren't losing their minds right now. Truth is they are because they know he's a moron and they are putting their country first in this case. They are staying on because they are our last line of defense from Trump . Trump is a puppet and has done nothing of value ever in his life. He was a check book as a real estate mogul and he's a figure head now.
Some folds just do not understand a tall tale.
Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:18 pm to MastrShake
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He did a lot of what we would call ‘winning hearts and minds’ and embraced reforms which helped end their resistance," said Lance Janda, a military historian at Cameron University. "He fought too, but only when he had to, and only against tribes or bands that just wouldn’t negotiate with him
Maybe this is what trump was referring to? He never specifically mentioned pig blood in that tweet
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