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the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.
Posted by MastrShake on 8/17/17 at 3:19 pm3670
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For those not in the know, General Pershing would bury radical islamists with dead pigs and cover them in pig blood.
this is not true.
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"This story is a fabrication and has long been discredited," said Brian McAllister Linn, a Texas A&M University historian and author of Guardians of Empire: The U.S. Army and the Pacific, 1902-1940. "I am amazed it is still making the rounds."
in fact it goes against the way Pershing actually did act.
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Indeed, other historians noted that Pershing pursued a less brutal approach to "pacifying" the rebels in the southern Philippines than Leonard Wood, one of his predecessors.
"He did a lot of what we would call ‘winning hearts and minds’ and embraced reforms which helped end their resistance," said Lance Janda, a military historian at Cameron University. "He fought too, but only when he had to, and only against tribes or bands that just wouldn’t negotiate with him. He wasn’t solely committed to fighting as people like Trump who tell the pig blood story imply."
AND...
even if it didnt, trumps conclusion still doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
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"Even if the tale is true, the pacifying effect that Trump claims is nonsense," said Michael H. Hunt, an emeritus historian at the University of North Carolina and author of Arc of Empire: America's Wars in Asia from the Philippines to Vietnam. The region "remained in constant unrest during the period of American rule and into the period of independence, right down to the present."
Silbey of Cornell agreed. "Where Trump’s remark becomes ridiculous is in the idea that this actually worked," he said. "The Moro War did not end until 1913, and even that’s a bit of a soft date, with violence continuing for quite a while afterward. Defilement by pig’s blood isn’t -- and wasn’t -- some magical method of ending terrorism."
but keep being proud of your ignorance if you want.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by SCLibertarian on 8/17/17 at 3:20 pm to MastrShake
13 people dead in Barcelona and the progs still are more concerned with Trump's tweets.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by FooManChoo on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to MastrShake
I'm proud that he isn't afraid to talk bluntly about Islamic terrorism. I don't even care if the tale is true. The point stands that we need to take a hard-nosed approach to terrorists.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by TigerBait1971 on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to MastrShake
Sweet melt
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by GumboPot on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to MastrShake
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For those not in the know, General Pershing would bury radical islamists with dead pigs and cover them in pig blood.
I don't see anything about pigs in Trump's tweet.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by sicboy on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to SCLibertarian
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13 people dead in Barcelona and the progs still are more concerned with Trump's tweets.
I mean, the tweet is in direct response to the terrorist attack
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by asurob1 on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to SCLibertarian
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13 people dead in Barcelona and the progs still are more concerned with Trump's tweets.
More concerned about the leader of our nation politicizing the deaths of 13 people for his own gains.
If he was say oh...I don't know...Obama you'd be bitching about it.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by Salmon on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to MastrShake
They don't care.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by TK421 on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to SCLibertarian
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13 people dead in Barcelona
And Trump is tweeting nonsense
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by LosLobos111 on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to SCLibertarian
Keeps proving my point
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re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to MastrShake
It's absolutely incredible to me the sheer amount of attention and valuable time you devote to giving a shite about every tweet he makes
Do you think your outrage will make a difference?
Do you think your outrage will make a difference?
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime on 8/17/17 at 3:22 pm to MastrShake
And? Are you really pumping your chest over calling out Donald Trump for playing fast and loose with facts on twitter? Have you been in a coma for 18 months? You need to stop wasting outrage on every single tweet. Pick less hills to die on.
And to any honest person, his meaning by the tweet is clear. But for those with the need to fight every word that comes out of his mouth, this doesn't matter. They have to fake outrage about it and make vague implications about its significance
And to any honest person, his meaning by the tweet is clear. But for those with the need to fight every word that comes out of his mouth, this doesn't matter. They have to fake outrage about it and make vague implications about its significance
This post was edited on 8/17 at 3:25 pm
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More concerned about the leader of our nation politicizing the deaths of 13 people for his own gains.
Her name was Heather Heyer. How many times have y'all mentioned her name the last few days you little bitch hypocrite?
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by MastrShake on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to FooManChoo
quote:of course you dont. truth and reality are irrelevant when they don't support the things you already like and believe. if lying promotes those things, thats fine too.
I don't even care if the tale is true.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by G The Tiger Fan on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
So what was wrong about his Tweet? Were there many terrorist attacks in the US in the following 35 years? The quote you have below the Tweet was not written by our God-Emperor ... just so we're clear.
This post was edited on 8/17 at 3:26 pm
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by SCLibertarian on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to asurob1
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politicizing the deaths of 13 people for his own gains
As opposed to politicizing one death in Charlottesville to make it seem as if white supremacists are the biggest threat in this country?
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by CptBengal on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
what was wrong in what he claimed...fail, moron.
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by Bjorn Cyborg on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
Did Trump say anything about pigs or blood?
Looks like he assigned you homework to study and you did.
Good job!
Looks like he assigned you homework to study and you did.
Good job!
re: the General Pershing thing Trump is tweeting about never happened, just so we're clear.Posted by texag7 on 8/17/17 at 3:24 pm to MastrShake
We should pour blood on dead Muslim terrorists.
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