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re: The fatal flaw in the left's "gotcha" narrative as to the Trump-Cohen tape

Posted on 7/25/18 at 6:50 am to
Posted by bigbowe80
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 6:50 am to
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The fatal flaw in the left's "gotcha" narrative as to the Trump-Cohen tape
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Sorry. Better luck next time.


Thanks. There is nothing illegal about setting up a payment arrangement. The action of executing the payment........mission control...we have a problem.




Do you ever get tired of being wrong about everything ?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:36 am to
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Thanks. There is nothing illegal about setting up a payment arrangement. The action of executing the payment........mission control...we have a problem.


Exactly which law(s) was/were broken by Trump?

I hear extortion is illegal though.
Posted by shinerfan
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Member since Sep 2009
28544 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 7:43 am to
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It was only because Trump had waived the privilege as to the tape (and the contents) that it could be released.





Rudy said they they waived because the NYT already had it and they didn't want the content cherry picked and mischaraterized. So there was still an illegal leak from someone at the FBI or Slime Bob.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 8:21 am to
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Trump is fooked.




You guys never learn
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55350 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:17 am to
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This proves yet again that Trump is an unhinged, serial liar to all of us. He will not be prosecuted on this, but why don’t you care that he just does not tell the truth on anything. His low life character is what the tape proves such as f....... around on Melania with an infant son and then misleading everybody as he does on everything.


We learned from you. You taught us. In this regard, we are your Students.

You Democrats taught us long ago that we will ignore the sexual piccadilloes of our political leader.

Why the melt? We are doing as you taught us to do.

Posted by brian_wilson
Member since Oct 2016
3581 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 9:33 am to
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Because communications regarding future illegal conduct IS NOT PROTECTED BY PRIVILEGE. In fact, there is an express exemption of such communications from the attorney-client privilege rules.



1) It is good to see that the special master is doing an acceptable job. I know many trumplicans didn't believe this was going to happen, but it appears to be.

2) The special master (and team) didn't see anything on the surface that was illegal, but that doesn't mean there is nothing problematic in the call. The review team is not briefed on the call, the nuances, the names, or privy to other evidence that might make this call look suspect.

I do find it odd that privilege was waived on this call. I guess they figure it was going to come out at some point so why not get ahead. Even more bizarre is Rudy G lying about its contents. Why lie?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37618 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 10:47 am to
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The action of executing the payment........mission control...we have a problem.


This was nothing more than a discussion between a lawyer and his client advising on how to execute a payment arrangement and the best way to do that. This is less than nothing and also a payment was never made. So less than nothing. There was nothing illegal about that whole exchange, it's rather commonplace in corporate law
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37618 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 10:56 am to
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The special master (and team) didn't see anything on the surface that was illegal, but that doesn't mean there is nothing problematic in the call. The review team is not briefed on the call, the nuances, the names, or privy to other evidence that might make this call look suspect.


You do not know what you are talking about. There was nothing illegal in what was spoken about. There was nothing illegal in terms of talking about how to pay ( which apparently they did not). This was a normal conversation between a client and attorney given he type of client.

Personally I don't know why Trump would allow the release and Rudy would agree to it. Additionally I don't know why Cohen would tape his client. I remember the fight in the ABA when this was being discussed - taping of conversation of clients. A lot of old school attorneys bitched about it not being unethical.
Posted by SnukaD
Covington, LA
Member since Apr 2016
529 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 10:59 am to
You must've loved Bill Clinton!!
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19302 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:06 am to
Bill Clinton paid off how many women for sexual assault/harassment claims?

It’s not moral either way but it’s not illegal.
Move on, democrats.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:09 am to
Paying a whore to shut the hell up is his and the whore's business. Edwards had a third party come up with the funds. Thus the campaign contribution and he still got in no trouble. Trump was the intended payer here. His money and he can throw it up a wild hog's azz and yell sooie at him if he chooses. Plus he never paid! Embarrassed? Well yeah, he's denied hell out of this to his wife and children.
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 11:22 am
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11880 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:13 am to
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Trump paid here.


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The former model, Karen McDougal, says she began a nearly yearlong affair with Mr. Trump in 2006, shortly after Mr. Trump’s wife, Melania, gave birth to their son, Barron. Ms. McDougal sold her story for $150,000 to The National Enquirer, which was supportive of Mr. Trump, during the final months of the presidential campaign, but the tabloid sat on the story, which kept it from becoming public. The practice, known as “catch and kill,” effectively silenced Ms. McDougal for the remainder of the campaign.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:16 am to
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This proves yet again that Trump is an unhinged, serial liar to all of us. He will not be prosecuted on this, but why don’t you care that he just does not tell the truth on anything. His low life character is what the tape proves such as f....... around on Melania with an infant son and then misleading everybody as he does on everything.


Meh, everyone knows rich alpha heterosexual males always have gorgeous female gold diggers/ prostitutes flocking to them in droves and that the gold diggers/prostitutes will let rich alpha heterosexual males grab their pussy in exchange for big bucks down the line.

Nothing to see here, folks.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:34 am to
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Thanks. There is nothing illegal about setting up a payment arrangement. The action of executing the payment........mission control...we have a problem.
What is the real problem? Other than you dont like Trump.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:36 am to
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action of executing the payment........mission control...we have a problem.


I'd love to hear this. Please expand.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:37 am to
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He will not be prosecuted on this
For what?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:39 am to
Haha. What you posted supports the op. You just don't understand it. Holy shite!!! Hahahah.
Posted by TigahsBrother
Member since Jul 2018
22 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:39 am to
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Thus, by finding the communication was privileged (necessitating a waiver), the Court has already made a determination that there is nothing illegal being discussed.



Where did you get your law degree?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22774 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:40 am to
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So there was still an illegal leak from someone at the FBI or Slime Bob.
Cohen released it.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59474 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 11:44 am to
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Where did you get your law degree


Interesting question since it is obvious you don't have one.
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