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The Economy that was not suppose to happen
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:03 pm
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The labor market the United States is experiencing right now wasn’t supposed to be possible.
Not that long ago, the overwhelming consensus among economists would have been that you couldn’t have a 3.6 percent unemployment rate without also seeing the rate of job creation slowing (where are new workers going to come from with so few out of work, after all?) and having an inflation surge (a worker shortage should mean employers bidding up wages, right?).
And yet that is what has happened, with the April employment numbers putting an exclamation point on the trend. The jobless rate receded to its lowest level in five decades. Employers also added 263,000 jobs; the job creation estimates of previous months were revised up; and average hourly earnings continued to rise at a steady rate — up 3.2 percent over the last year.
Compare that reality with the projections the Federal Reserve published just three years ago. In mid-2016, Fed officials thought that the long-run rate of unemployment would be around 4.8 percent, and that this would coincide with 2 percent inflation.
If that were the jobless rate today, 1.9 million Americans would not be working who are instead gainfully employed. And despite this ultralow unemployment rate, inflation is only 1.6 percent over the last year, below the level the Fed aims for.
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But beyond the assigning of credit or blame, there’s a bigger lesson in the job market’s remarkably strong performance: about the limits of knowledge when it comes to something as complex as the $20 trillion U.S. economy.
The last few years have made it clear that the Phillips curve — the relationship between unemployment and inflation — has either changed shape or become irrelevant.
The breakdown of the old guidelines suggests that policymakers need to avoid overreliance on them, and to stay broad-minded to the full range of economic possibilities. Maybe using data from a few decades in the middle of the 20th century to set policy in the 21st isn’t actually a good idea.
The author is right we cannot rely on predictions from last century to affect our approach in this century. The Fake News NYT jumps through hoops to not give Trump credit, but they cannot ignore the fact that Trump and his economic people knew this and took a decent to good economy that he inherited from Obama and made it great.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:05 pm to WeeWee
90krugman is going to destroy you when he gets off of his next shift
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:07 pm to WeeWee
Our President just needs to start tweeting out links to predictions that these asinine economists that liberal propagandists (CNN, Huffpost, VOX, etc.) use to justify their stances followed by real-time market assessments of the economy.
Death knell.
Death knell.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:10 pm to NIH
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90krugman is going to destroy you when he gets off of his next shift
Tell 90% full of shite to bring it on.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:10 pm to WeeWee
I heard a really interesting retort by a Dem today on TV.
We all know studies that say 'Only 50% of Americans have enough savings to pay a sudden $500 expense.'
The guy said that it's because the Trump economy is not so good after all.
It was BS but it was certainly a new tactic.
We all know studies that say 'Only 50% of Americans have enough savings to pay a sudden $500 expense.'
The guy said that it's because the Trump economy is not so good after all.
It was BS but it was certainly a new tactic.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:24 pm to NIH
His shift at Dairy Queen right?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:25 pm to WeeWee
Every credible economist states this is trumps economy. Not Obama’s.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:27 pm to Fat Bastard
Is he waiving his magic wand again?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:28 pm to Zach
They didn’t have savings under Obama either. If they are too stupid to see that, they won’t survive when we can no longer give out free.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:29 pm to WeeWee
Keep it booming. This economy can't rise high enough. Trump should do whatever he can to increase growth.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:32 pm to Fat Bastard
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Every credible economist states this is trumps economy. Not Obama’s.
Justly so, since Obama always claimed it was Bush's economy, not his.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:36 pm to WeeWee
Really good or really bad leadership produces results thought impossible.
Until Jimmy Carter, it was thought impossible to have stagflation (high inflation, high unemployment, low economic growth).
Until Jimmy Carter, it was thought impossible to have stagflation (high inflation, high unemployment, low economic growth).
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:41 pm to WeeWee
Trump still hasn't nominated a Fed Chairman has he?
The Fed is an all-time stupid idea. What possessed Congress to pass this in 1913? If you want to totally disconnect politics from interest rates and money creation, ok.
But why exactly do you give this power to a private entity - that cannot be audited?
The Fed is an all-time stupid idea. What possessed Congress to pass this in 1913? If you want to totally disconnect politics from interest rates and money creation, ok.
But why exactly do you give this power to a private entity - that cannot be audited?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:43 pm to teke184
my, how the vibe has changed from march when the last observation for quarterly gdp was 2.2 and the latest month's jobs number was 20k!
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:46 pm to WeeWee
Well it’s like because everyone has like 2 or 3 jobs. Duh
- AOC
- AOC
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:48 pm to Sunbeam
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Trump still hasn't nominated a Fed Chairman has he?
The Fed is an all-time stupid idea. What possessed Congress to pass this in 1913? If you want to totally disconnect politics from interest rates and money creation, ok.
I think Trump will take action to significantly weaken the FED in his second term.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 4:58 pm to NIH
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90krugman
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is going to destroy you when he gets off of his next shift
what's there to destroy, anyway? all this guy is saying is that there's slack in the unemployment rate, that most of us underrated until we were supposed to be at full employment. that slack has probably been built up by a slide in the 25+ participation rate
there were certainly some who were saying this was the case years ago without the benefit of hindsight. maybe trump will nominate them to the fed!
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:09 pm to NIH
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90krugman
He probably will be awhile. His shift replacement at the French Fry station called out so he has to work a double today.
Eta: oops. I see the fry station broke down and he’s off.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:20 pm to WeeWee
I mentioned this the other day. The current economic trends are unreal and is pretty much thought to have been impossible to attain
Posted on 5/4/19 at 5:22 pm to deltaland
Now that the money is rolling in again and the American economy is roaring, I think the US just goes out in a blaze of hedonistic greed and glory. One final crash and burn over the next couple of decades.
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